See George Christensen's bit of 'Dirty Harry' fun. The Greens again demonstrate their sour-puss lack of humour with coppers' nark, di Natale, dobbing him in to the Federal Police – as if they would not have already know about it – and Sarah Two-names wetting herself. A bloke can't have a joke any more without being nagged by the 8% Green drama queens. Ban political donations from any person or group by all means, but just ban the Greens altogether.

Dear o sung wu,

Yes it is a worry. I have a friend who doesn't feel like taking his kids in there any more because it feels unsafe and I don't blame him. State forests in Victoria are great for families who want to camp with their dog/s as they are not allowed in National Parks. The shooters generally kept to their game reserves or private properties. They have pushed for the 'right' to shoot in these areas and the gun lobby has been very effective in enabling this. We are now seeing the consequences.

One of the best walks at Mt Cole is the Beeripmo Walk. This is the marker which is within 100 mts of the Ditchfields Camp site where we usually stay. Look pretty low calibre but is still a worry.
http://imgur.com/mGwQTgq

What is likely to happen is families will desert these spots and what had been enjoyed by many people will be left to the gun toting hoons, especially with with no one to pull them up. It is not a pretty future. It is a very selfish attitude.

Steele,

The calibre of the rifle that shot the holes in the top sign is probably between .270" and .32" or so as the usual screws used to hold such signs have a head diametre of .312".

The holes in the lower sign appear smaller so probably a .243" rifle

.270" and .243" are the minimum legal calibres for hunting deer in Victoria.
(the above is just a small example of the theoretical application of forensic ballistics)
http://www.gma.vic.gov.au/hunting/deer/hunting-methods

There is no such thing as a low calibre rifle, (except the Zimmerstutzen), even the lowly .22 rimfire can kill at 1,000 ++ metres.

One would think that hunting areas and camping areas would be segregated.
Only selfish people would go camping with dogs in a State Forrest, have they no regard for native wildlife?

Hi there STEELEREDUX...

Thank you for the image of that sign: either shot by 12g slugs; alternatively a large centre fire ctg. This is the sort of vandalism that brings 'ALL' shooters into disrepute, notwithstanding it's the actions of a few. Similarly, shooting at young trees to demonstrate their superior 'marksmanship'! Friggin' idiots.

My walking days are long over. However I'd not feel comfortable if I were hiking, hearing the sounds of ordnance, clipping their way through the tree line. Hell, I've heard enough of those sounds, when in the military for goodness sake. I understand this is unlikely to occur in a Victorian State Forest, though you never know do you? I personally would never feel particularly comfortable in an area where shooters were participating in their sport. The chance of receiving a survivable wound from a modern centre fire round anywhere, is not that good.

For that reason, all State Property should be declared as either; suitable for hunting 'ONLY':- Or a strict prohibition of hunting altogether. This may avoid any serious accidents in the future. As I've said, I'm pretty well out of touch with the shooting fraternity, thus stand to be corrected.

Guns or no guns, the legal structure is designed to criminalise self-defence. An old lady I once knew who lived alone kept a baseball bat by her bed in case of any intruder, and a friendly cop she knew advised her that she should never disclose that she had the bat for self-defence as she could end up being prosecuted for keeping a weapon to hit an intruder, as that was illegal.

As for guns, it was good to see that people fed up with the latest killing spree in Florida were organising to "out" any pollies or businesses who accepted funds from the NRA and to advertise the list on the Internet. At the same time it was also encouraging to see that Remington had gone bankrupt.

A website in Australia to "out" recipients of Yank NRA funds would be useful - for example I always use preferential voting to put gun freaks like the Fishers and Shooters Party or Senator Leyonhjelm last, but some gun freaks within and outside the Tweedledum-Tweedledee parties hide their support for backsliding from the post-Port Arthur Howard gun controls.

The Greens alongside their antifa mates and Soros complaining about violence. Please tell me its a joke.