Something very wrong when cancer sufferers pay for own drugs while druggies get methadone for free.

Hi there RUNNER.... All the very best to you and yours for 2018.

Mate if you please, you'll elevate my blood pressure my friend! You're pushing all my buttons with that particular issue. Still that's always been a marque of Western Society hasn't it. Provide free medication to the illicit user in the hope they may be weened from the harder stuff? I wonder though, what the recidivism rate may be, with those who're hardened ICE users?

G'Day PAUL1405...And to you too, all the best to you and yours for 2018.

The US is a basket case as far as crime is concerned. I've trained with the Bureau (in the US) on two separate occasions; 1986 and again in 1987. Neither Schools were to do with the Interdiction of Narcotics, nevertheless it gave me the chance to see; 'up close and personal' just how good they are, in anything they do. Yet for one to try and juxtapose their finite training against their burgeoning crime rates, well forget it, it's just not possible.

There are parts of some of the East Coast Cities, Boston; NYC; DC; Atlantic City as an example that police fear to go, most certainly in uniform. ICE is awash in most of the larger Cities, with no likelihood of it diminishing in anytime soon. The presence of uniformed police, to an ICE user, seem to be like a red rag to a bull.

What you say Paul is true. US Gaols are overflowing with users, pushers and the occasional supplier. When the figures should be inverted - Fill the gaols with suppliers; pushers; and if space allows, the worst of the users. This is very much inline with DIVER DAN's suggestion and HASBEEN's as well. Hospitals are often ill-equiped to handle some chronic ICE patients as well.

I've no idea of the $ costs involved, in 'curing' a co-operative user of the drug ICE, other than I don't think it would be too cheap. It's a mess.

Thanks for 2018 wishes O Sung Wu may you be greatly blessed this year.

One thought I had heard a while ago is to encourage being active in a sport. It's not really specific to The drug ICE, but the general idea is if a person wants to stay in shape and stay in the sports team, they will actively keep off if drugs that kill their bodies and their competive edge. For kids in school encouraging being on a team will help the culture as a whole for schools to be anti drug, and hopefully a repulsion to drugs for even those who aren't in the sport activities. For adults the same encouragement could be given to get into a sport to stay healthy.

If ICE is the next worse meth product, then I don't know of any rehabilitation systems that work and are cheap to employ. Without knowing how worse ICE is I know meth is highly addictive and very destructive to one's body. Best answer I can think of for that kind of thing is active encouragement and programs to to not start the drug. A cultural push to be in shape and be competitive might work. Or a least that's a running hope.

Hi, o sung wu, happy new year to you and all your love ones as well.

What do you do? What...do... you.... do? I don't have the answers. How do you make sure your kids steer clear of drugs? You can only advise and educate about the dangers, provide that love and support they need in life, be vigilant, very vigilant at times. make sure your kids follow a decent path in life, with goals they set and strive to achieve.That, fingers crossed, hopefully brings them all the success and happiness they need to not be one of life's losers.

I am fortunate to have the worlds best grand kids, you might also be in the same position, as are many of us old farts if we are lucky. But I worry about their future, just as I did in the past when I worried about my sons as they grew up.

I would hate to be a copper when it comes to drugs. The police are the garbage men in all of this (I don't men that disrespectfully) given the task of shoveling up all the human waste that drugs cause, they are at the end of the line. The real constructive work needed to avoid the problems, has to be done before the line starts.

Nice idea Not_Now.Soon, but if you look at the number of elite & professional sports of all disciplines that are heavily into both alcohol & heavy drugs, the idea that desire for high performance will keep people off drugs just doesn't work for many.

In fact that desire leads many into using prohibited & dangerous drugs to try to get higher performance.