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Runner: You did not read what I wrote, I was talking of my own personal experience. I did not have the misfortune to experience Stalin, Hitler et al in person. I can also say that there were just a few people in my young life that were committed Christians and who were some of the most beautiful folk I ever met. They were the exceptions to the rule, most fundamentalist Christians that I had the misfortune to be associated with (mostly unwillingly on my part) were joyless hypocrites who seemingly enjoyed bringing misery into the lives of others. Their obsession with the sex lives of others knew no bounds. That was the lived reality of my younger life as a ward of such people. Of course, I have since found some evil souls who were not Christians, but they have proved to be much thinner on the ground.
Posted by MyOwnMan, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 5:58:49 PM
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MyOwnMan
u do realise that the term ' Christian killing' is an oxymoron.
' Of course, I have since found some evil souls who were not Christians, but they have proved to be much thinner on the ground.'
having personally hung out with people from all parts of life I find that very hard to believe. As someone who appears to claim not to believe in God it seems strange you even use the word 'evil'. Secularism denies absolutes and then is irrational enough to define their own standards of good and evil. Nothing is more evil than killing unborn children.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 6:17:08 PM
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"Paul1405, When has a Christian or a Church in the last hundred years murdered 900 in the name of his God?"
Josephus, 18th November 1978, location; Jamestown Guyana, the Christian; Jim Jones, the Christen Church; The Peoples Temple, the victims; 909 persons, almost the entire congregation. Of course you are going to claim this was all the act of Christian renegades led by a demented Jones, who wrongly believed he was acting in the name of God. I'll agree. But like ISIS which is run by demented Muslim renegades, it also wrongly kills in the name of God. Neither are sanctioned by the mainstream of their respective religions, but both claim(ed) to act in the name of God. The link is they both believe their actions are legitimate through a belief in God. You can't have it both ways. Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 25 January 2018 4:39:50 AM
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Why does our government not keep people who wear the hijab out of Christian countries? It is just commonsense to do that.
And why do those people come to Christian countries and not muslim countries. The Hijab is an obvious source of social division, and promotes tribalism based on religion. The number of times, debates are held about it in the media, social internet opinion sites etc. is a testimony to how much division it causes. The number of times our leaders talk about," boots on the ground" here and there and somewhere else, to fight terrorism, doesnt make sense with us having open borders at the same time. Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 25 January 2018 9:12:39 PM
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Now, after the Muslims women are involving more and more in the society, those people are trying to get them back to the ghettos by banning them from wearing the Hijab/Burqa…And the other one who were saying that: Men are imposing the Hijab/burqa to those women and are covering that by saying: it’s her choice. This argument is simply ridiculous, it seems that she doesn't want to hear that someone wear it because of their spiritual journey, she definitely wants them to be oppressed. And the French guy who were saying: We are banning it because of the dignity of the woman and gender equality. Since when the equality is used to restrict the liberty of free choices. Those people need to be reminded that this law is totally opposed to the universal human rights.
Hijab isn't just clothing, it's an avenue for da'wah (as WhyIslam has been illustrating today). In the West, people feel more comfortable asking questions of me when I am wearing a scarf, maxi skirt, t-shirt, and cardigan in coordinating colours, as opposed to all black abaya and scarf, which tends to draw a LOT more attention in areas where Muslims are a minority. Isn't the point to be obviously Muslim but not stand out overmuch? Also, when we talk about "hijab isn't fashion", we need to discuss the mentality behind what we wear, not the clothes themselves. As long as our clothing conforms to Islamic guidelines of modesty, there is no need to cast aside our individual cultural clothing for abaya. Pretty clothing that fits properly and looks good increases confidence and self-esteem, and seeing that they aren't limited to wearing too-large black abaya can encourage sisters who want to wear hijab but are worried about looking "sloppy" while out and about or "unprofessional" in their workplaces Posted by Iftikhar, Friday, 26 January 2018 3:12:16 AM
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//Why does our government not keep people who wear the hijab out of Christian countries?//
Because we don't live in a Christian country, you ignoramus. We live in a secular country, with no state religion. //It is just commonsense to do that.// No, it's appalling bigotry. Can you not tell the difference? //The Hijab is an obvious source of social division, and promotes tribalism based on religion.// No, it's bit of material you wear on your head. Nuns used to wear similar garments, and nobody claimed they were a source of social division. And shouldn't grown-ups be allowed to dress themselves without stickybeaks like you telling them what they should wear? I really don't see why get worked up about people's fashion choices. It's a just a scarf, for heaven's sake. Do you get as worked up when people have accessorised poorly? Or if their top doesn't match the rest of the ensemble? Or their shoes aren't the right designer label? I know some people take fashion very seriously, but don't you think it's taking things a bit too far to claim it's 'an obvious source of social division' when people wear hats you don't like? Are Muslims are definitely not the only people who wear scarves on their heads. I was a Scout, and we wore scarves: http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=3741461 Scout scarves are a triangular piece of material, which are typically rolled as shown and worn around the neck, secured by a 'woggle'. But if remove the woggle, take it off your neck and unroll it, they make an excellent headscarf (also known as 'bandanas' or 'hijabs'). You wouldn't think it, would you? The Scouts as a source of social division? But they are a paramilitary organisation who have been known to wear scarves on their heads. The risk is far too great: it's time to ban the Scouts from Australia. Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 26 January 2018 7:27:51 AM
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