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Is 'mental illness' too often the excuse?
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Mental illness is just a cop out for dangerous lunatics who know full well what they are doing. It's just an excuse used by people who don't have what it takes to deal with dangerous people. There has been no sudden surge of mental illness in Australia or anywhere else in the West. The problem is yes, you guessed it, multiculturalism. Non-Westerners are given to beliefs and behaviour so bizarre and alien to us that we have no words to describe the behaviour - hence the misnomer and totally inaccurate diagnosis of 'mental illness'. Stopping the immigration of such people, and deportation of those here, is the only way to go.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 30 December 2017 10:08:07 AM
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o sung wu,
All the best in the New Year for you and your's. Regarding 'direct' policing, when I was a very young smoker we had to be careful where we lit up as the local police, who of course knew our fathers, would take our cigarettes off us (to be slowly destroyed later!!), give us a clip in the ear and probably tell our parents. Didn't stop us smoking but it sure limited our intake of nicotine. When the penny finally dropped I gave up the habit and haven't indulged in over 50 years, except for a drag on a 'tailor-made' in 1997 and it tasted so horrible that I threw it in the camp-fire. Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 30 December 2017 10:18:45 AM
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Hi Ttbn,
There may not have been any rise in the numbers mentally-ill in Australia, but clearly many of them have turned to violence in the last few years. We face an unprecedented crisis in how to deal with them. Clearly, we need far more anti-mentally-ill bollards in public places with high population. Perhaps anybody with a mental illness should be denied a driver's licence, and certainly a gun licence. Perhaps a knife licence as well. How to combat the mentally-ill ? How to deter them from turning violent ? Of course, many of them would be incurably insane, so armed police should be trained for quick-response against any totally-unpredictable behaviour. I'm not saying, shoot first and ask questions afterwards, but it may come to that. Obviously, there has been an epidemic of violent mental illness just in the last four or five years. We need to understand where that's come from, and to disregard any pretexts used, such as Islam. After all, where does it say in the Koran that the mentally-ill shall go to Paradise just for brutally killing innocent people ? That's the sole right of true believers, not nut-cases. Islam shouldn't be used as a cover for mental illness - we have to call out what are the real causes of violent terrorism - mental illness in all its forms. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 30 December 2017 10:43:25 AM
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TTBN...You claim 'Mental Illness is just a cop out for lunatics who know full well what they're doing...'? OK and what would you have done with them? Are all those inflicted with mental illness who face the courts, some citing the 1843 'McNaghten rule' as a defence to murder, are they too playing the mental illness card as well?
Let me get you argument crystal clear; are you inferring everyone who faces the Courts who claim mental mental illness as a defence, are just manipulating the 'game'? Or are you, yourself confused with the term 'mitigation' as opposed to 'defence' in criminal jurisprudence? You see TTBN your problems are - Much of your arguments, like you yourself, lack relevancy. That's why you tend to make these bizarre comments in the hope that it will shock other contributors into agreeing with you. To your misanthropic attitude:- Since you've come on the Forum, you've done nothing but rant 'n rave about immigrants; refugees and boat people (some are neither bona fide immigrants or refugees). You've never had a kind word to say about anyone who's happens to come from the middle east or it's environs. That's your right of course. But to claim you're anything else, but overtly misanthropic, would make the tenets of DSM V a 'monumental' joke. You say I was a 'rough' policeman in early days, 'chuntering on' about police violence. So? Further, you say I'm to be pitied? No TTBN, that pity would be entirely wasted on me. I've witnessed far too much human suffering, both as a copper and in South Vietnam; I'm (almost) immune to it, therefore your pity would be wasted. Better for it to be directed inward, to yourself. Otherwise to pursue your own negative ideology, who knows, one day your own name may appear 'writ large' on the daily crime sheets. Mate, you share many of the symptoms I've observed in crim's I've known, who've suffered from chronic episodes of psychopathy. You seem to hate everyone and everything? You want evidence, read the antecedence of MONIS, of the Martin Place, Lindt Cafe siege. Posted by o sung wu, Saturday, 30 December 2017 11:38:47 AM
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Could it be that any excuse is acceptable to an out of touch Judiciary or the politicians are to blame, as this story suggests, the judge should be removed.
A serial drink and unlicensed driver from Western Australia has been handed a $500 fine for his sixteenth driving conviction. Mitchell Walsh, who hit and killed a ten-year-old girl in 2003, has once again been banned from getting behind the wheel - this time for just three months. On Friday he pleaded guilty to drug driving, as the Police Minister called for him to be taken off the road for good. Walsh has racked up seven convictions for drink driving and eight for driving while disqualified. When he fatally hit ten-year-old cyclist Jess Meehan in Clarkson, Perth, in 2003, he blew three times over the legal limit. However, he was found not guilty of dangerous driving causing death. He has been fined $500 for his latest offence after admitting to driving under the influence of meth and marijuana. It is the maximum penalty for a drug driving first offences. Driving or riding in a car without a seat belt carries a heavier fine of $550. Riding in the back of a ute receives a $550 fine. Walsh opted not to appear at court today. He submitted a plea of guilty but provided no explanation and no apology for his most recent crime. The Minister reiterated her intent to get Walsh and other repeat offenders off the road. "I'll see what's appropriate and legally possible in that regard," she said. http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/38440904/serial-drink-and-unlicensed-driver-handed-a-500-fine/ Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 30 December 2017 12:19:49 PM
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Marxism itself is a mental illness. That is why it defends and gets on well with Islam. To dumb to see they are being used by Islam as useful idiots.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 30 December 2017 12:23:02 PM
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