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Is 'Recognition' Withering On The Vine'?

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'Recognition' has gone quiet; Pat Dodson thinks that it “will die on the vine”, but that comment could come from a juvenile hankering for instant gratification. Recognition has still been playing in the background until today, when a story in the 'Courier Mail' headed, “Turnbull rejects 'radical' indigenous blueprint” appeared.

It seems that even the PM regards the desire to create a Voice to the Parliament, which would have parliament being advised (dictated to?) by selected people of aboriginal background as “too ambitious”. He probably knows that Australian voters would not wear it, unlike the white enablers pushing the whole thing. He also thinks that a rejection at a referendum would mean recognition would be “lost for decades”, which of course, would be a huge blow for the political elite in Australia, who kicked off the idea with a proposal 'merely' recognising the original settlement of certain people on the continent.

Even this 'simple recognition' is poison for the country: our activist High Court has proved it is capable of 'discovering' all sorts of mischief in the simplest of language.

Australia does not need separate development (apartheid), and the whole nonsense should be allowed to 'wither on the vine'. Better still, knocked on the head.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 26 October 2017 11:34:08 AM
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Apartheid was a realistic strategy for the minority rule to retain power. That was actually the minority with all the money. Why wouldn't they have the expectation of control?

Maybe parts of the apartheid policy could be included into identifying true Aboriginals from imposters sponging on the system?

Identifying blacks from coloured included the "pencil test".
The applicant attended the local police station where after an interview process, was seated in a chair to have a pencil inserted into his hair, usually above the ear, where gravity could work it's identifying magic. If the pencil dropped out onto the floor, the applicant would be confirmed as couloured, and thus be entitled to the extra priveledge that came with the rank of coloured.

The scientific nature of this test, proved one way or the other, if any soft hair genetic trace lingered from distant European ancestry.
Posted by diver dan, Thursday, 26 October 2017 1:15:50 PM
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In animal farm the domination of one group over another led to the the statement in their constitution "everyone is equal" to be amended with "but some are more equal than others"

The problem with the constitution is precisely that one race is not treated equally and the majority of people are happy to have this removed, and to include recognition of the original peoples. The Referendum council was formed to determine the exact wording of this.

However, the referendum council appears to have expanded its mandate to try and include additional rights for one race over another in the constitution and in doing so has produced a "take it or leave it" proposal that has no chance of success.

Dodson had a one in a lifetime chance to make a difference but it has now sunk in an ocean of hubris and entitlement.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 27 October 2017 4:25:05 AM
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SM,

A good summing up. The 'broadening' of the original proposal clearly shows that activists and the gimme, gimme brigades in society will never be satisfied - give them an inch, and they want a yard. This applies not only to aboriginal activists (the average aboriginal-identifier - and those who just identify as Australian - are not into this identity politics nonsense), but also to Muslim activists, homosexual activists, and feminists activists, as well as anyone other groups of malcontents and trouble-makers you can think of. Too many Australians these days think that there is something different or special about them.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 27 October 2017 7:56:03 AM
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The Courier Mail tells us that -

"All the government wanted was a modest plan to pursue
a referendum to recognise indigenous people in the
Constitution that could be put to Australian people
and succeed."

"Instead what it got was recommendations that were too
radical and called for a 'Voice to Parliament' ".

It seems that Labor, as Mr Shorten revealed, would
support the "Voice to Parliament".

Cabinet has rejected the plan - which means that the
government will now need a new plan.

It does seem a pity that after so much talk, so many
meetings, a compromise by government and the indigenous
groups could not be reached.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 27 October 2017 9:47:42 AM
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Indigenous were recognised in 1788 as part of the people of Australia (New Holland as it was known then) and became Citizens along with the rest of us in 1949.

I am so pleased that changing the Constitution to have a separate page for the Indigenous - or - how many treaties - how many tribes?.....has been rejected.

United we stand.
One people.
One country.
One Nation.

Now to make welfare 'needs' based for ALL Australians.
Not separate race based welfare and other 'extras' that the rest of Australians don't get!!
Posted by Narelle47, Friday, 27 October 2017 11:29:18 AM
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