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Unethical Media Encourage More and Worse Mass Shootings

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Short video interview of researcher,

http://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/worldtoday/is-media-coverage-driving-increase-in-mass-shootings-in-usa/9010878

The media already know what ethics to apply and why it is crucial. But over years they have thumbed their noses and refused to comply voluntarily. Obviously audience numbers and advertising profits come before lives,

http://www.reportingonmassshootings.org/

Who holds the media to account, since they are not doing that themselves. Not the cynical, sleazy politicians (Oz pollies are riding the LA ambulances too, disgusting). What about the public? But how?
Posted by leoj, Sunday, 8 October 2017 11:07:01 PM
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leoj,

Would it be too cynical of me to suggest that these incidents are a boon to the media: cheap to run, and of great interest to a ghoulish audience?

Thanks for drawing attention to the audio.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 9 October 2017 12:08:32 PM
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They are also a boon to creatures in politics and for those who influence them for their own gain as well. Disgusting.

I have also taken this up here from another tack,
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=7956&page=9
Posted by leoj, Monday, 9 October 2017 3:15:45 PM
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I believe it is sick individuals who are to blame and it will get worse because for notoriety there will be an "I can do more mentality".

That means sicko's will try to outdo what the last highest count was in victims and damage.

The only way to stop that is to not give them the limelight.

If they don't get lots of publicity even if dead it defeats a large reason for doing whatever they did.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 9 October 2017 4:18:21 PM
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The Los Angeles Times tells us that -

"Media outlets have long taken the position that
they simply report the news. But experts who study
mass violence say they are also part of the story,
because the intense coverage that such tragedies
receive can inspire new shooters."

We're told that "The perpetrators of these attacks
are often disillusioned young men, and they inhabit
the same publicity-obsessed culture as everybody else.
Killing offers the prospect of becoming a household
name."

Dewey Cornell, a forensic clinical psychologist at the
University of Virginia stated, "This seems like a way
to achieve some recognition and respect they lack in
their daily lives."

With few formal studies on the role of the media, experts
can only offer observations.

Sherry Towers, a researcher at Arizona State University
has conducted one of the few studies looking at connections
between shootings. However she also points out in the
article that this phenomenon does have its limits,
noting that mass shootings remain rare in Canada even though
most people there live close to the US border and are exposed
to the same news coverage. She suggests that "the difference
could be that Canadians have more regulated access to
firearms."

The conclusion seems to be that much more research is needed
to dissect the various factors that may be at work. However,
media definitely does seem to be complicit in mass shootings.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 12:47:18 PM
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Would you like to question the WHO and US protocols for media publication where suicides are concerned? Because most of those mass murderers are suicides.

This publication is from highly reputable sources,
http://www.reportingonmassshootings.org/

It is time the Oz media, politicians and commentariat acted responsibly.

Besides, they could be attending to their own backyard,
"Murder rates in NT towns of Katherine, Tennant Creek worse than US, Government figures show"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-09/murder-rate-katherine-tennant-creek-worse-than-united-states/9029834

and another sorry business that remains outstanding,

"Medical mistakes: a silent epidemic in Australian hospitals
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2013/s3778256.htm

..By some estimates, as many as 18,000 people die every year as a result of medical error, while 50,000 people suffer a permanent injury.

But there is no systematic collection and linking treatment error data, so it is impossible to know for sure how many medical mistakes cause serious harm or death. ..

LORRAINE LONG: From what I've found about one in 10 patients will experience a mishap. One of the most severe I've found is wrong site surgery, meaning the wrong eye, wrong leg, wrong hip, even the wrong patient...

But Lorraine Long argues little has changed since the report was handed to the government in the 1990s

LORRAINE LONG: I don't see a reduction in medical error at all. I still see cover-ups, I still see the lengths health departments will go to smother things and destroy records. But the errors are just the same, I'm not seeing a reduction.

And you would think that with all the recommendations made by coroners around the country, and those recommendations being paid attention to and implemented that systems would be better. "

and the kicker,
"ELEANOR HALL: Emily Bourke with that report. And tomorrow we'll bring you a report on the scale and impact of prescribing errors in Australian hospitals and whether the new era of electronic medication management systems will make a difference."
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 1:21:52 PM
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http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/resource_media.pdf
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 1:33:43 PM
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Back to the topic on Media and Mass Shootings:

Quoting from the link given below of the American
Psychological Association -

"People who commit mass shootings in America tend to share
three traits - rampant depression, social isolation, and
pathological narcissism according to a paper presented at
the American Psychological Association's Annual Convention
that calls on the media to deny such shooters the fame they
seek."

"Mass shootings are on the rise and so is
media coverage of them." said Jennifer B. Johnston, PhD, of
Western New Mexico University. "At this point, can we determine
which came first? Is the relationship merely unidirectional:
More shootings lead to more coverage? Or is it possible that
more coverage leads to more shootings?"

"Johnston and her coauthor, Andrew Joy, BS, also of Western New
Mexico University reviewed data on mass shootings amassed by
media outlets, the FBI and advocacy organisation, as well as
scholarly articles, to conclude that ' media contagion' is
largely responsible for the increase in these often deadly
outbursts. They defined mass shootings as either attempts to kill
multiple people who are not relatives or those resulting in
injuries or fatalities in public places."

"The prevalence of these crimes has risen in relation to the
news media coverage of them and the proliferation of social
media sites that tend to glorify the shooters and downplay the
victims Johnston said."

You can read more at:

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2016/08/media-contagion.aspx
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 2:37:50 PM
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wasn't it the abc recently who was paying that young muslim woman to say that Islam is the most feminist religion in the world. Thankfully she spat the dummy and left this nation however every bashed muslim woman must have been appalled by that statement. Certainly the abc's obsession with Catholic paedophile priests of 50 years ago while ignoring the masses of Indigenous kids being abused now shows you have damaging the press can be. Unfortunately our tax payer funded press is close if not the worst of the lot with its half truths and outright lies.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 10 October 2017 4:07:08 PM
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Here is a novel idea; If the United States was to introduce tougher gun laws, maybe, just maybe, they would see a decrease in the number of mass killings, and the media would have a lot less to report. Has anyone in America ever thought of that idea. Australia had a problem with mass murder on the scale of Las Vagus, it happened at Port Arthur Tasmania, but our Prime Minister John Howard acted, and brought in tough new gun laws, and lone behold the mass killings stopped. How strange the gun lobby must have thought, what a sheer coincidence.

Those of the political ilk of leoj, love to blame the media, particularly the public media such as the ABC and SBS for what they perceive as unwanted bias reporting. Nothing would suit them more than to control all media. In fact in their ideal world, government control of the media is essential Then you would get the 'right' facts. There would be no mass killings, well no news items that brought into question any possible government failures regarding such events. Just stories about how our Fearless Leader is working tirelessly night and day to keep us all safe and sound in Utopia Australia, Right leoj, that's how you would like it.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 15 October 2017 8:05:45 PM
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There is a fair bit of rain in SEQld and there could be local flooding. Now if there was widespread damage a Greens politician would suddenly appear. Not to commiserate with the sadly affected and never to help. But always to ambulance-chase. To try to score some cheap shots, 'It's coal mines' (Bob Brown) or similar, to get headlines. Never even appear at the site of devastation either - Greens are always safe somewhere else well distant.

LA: a disgusting array of ambulance-chasers dance in the blood of victims yet again and even before the victims are all located and transported to care, or to that other cold place.

Paul1405, you have a record of rushing to wrest shabby political capital out of any bloodied scene. Strange how you and your handlers always miss sad events like this,

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/10/massive-car-bomb-blast-rocks-somalia-mogadishu-171014142943624.html
Posted by leoj, Sunday, 15 October 2017 8:48:48 PM
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What is sad, is the way the radical right pro gun lobby and those that support it, like the One Nation man leoj, one who is puffed up with nationalist zeal, supposedly condemn world atrocities, yet offer nothing in the way of a positive solution to the problems. In fact the leoj types are actively in favour of maintaining the status quo of inequality, and continually mouth cliched nonsense from the likes of the NRA, and others of the political far right.
What is sickening is leoj and his use of meaningless sanctimonious clap trap; "dance in the blood of victims"... ridiculous, that attitude is four fifths of what causes people to be victims in the first place! Really leoj, do you actually care about the victims in Somalia or Las Vegas? I don't believe you do, a bit of a "Google" and then you paste the shocking story on the forum, but offer nothing in the way of a positive solution. Sad very sad.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 16 October 2017 4:07:03 AM
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//Here is a novel idea; If the United States was to introduce tougher gun laws, maybe, just maybe, they would see a decrease in the number of mass killings, and the media would have a lot less to report.//

//There is a fair bit of rain in SEQld and there could be local flooding//

I must say I do enjoy watching you scramble to find anything but gun control to talk about whenever the subject is raised, leoj.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Monday, 16 October 2017 5:57:55 AM
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