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Three shipbuilders are in the running for the $30 billion Future Frigate program — the UK’s BAE Systems with its Type 26, Fincantieri of Italy with its FREMM and Navantia of Spain with an updated F100.

The winner will be announced in 2018.

They will replace the Anzac frigates from the mid-2020s, in a project that will create more than 2000 jobs.

For $30 Billion 2,000 new jobs that is 15 million dollars per job
Good one Turnbull add that to the $50 Billion for the submarines.

My son was in Seoul last week and said it was all a non event there. No one concerned at all.
Lets all chill out and have a nice cup of tea.
Also let's not spend so much money on mostly ineffectual weaponry.

I think Trump handled Kim Jung, correctly.
Twits like Kim Jung, don't respond to appeasement, only muscle.

If Kim Jung is trying to broker some deal with his threatening behaviour,
then, I don't think we should respond to blackmail.

If he gets what he wants once, he will never let up wanting the next thing and the next thing.

Phillip S, would you please tell me just what the point would be in adding a fleet 9 of new frigates to the Oz navy. For that matter, let's hope we manage to avoid building those subs too.

At this moment the RAN is considering mothballing HMAS Adelaide, the one billion dollar mistake, because they can't man the thing. They are hoping that with the combined crew of Canberra & Adelaide they will actually manage to man Canberra.

Currently they can't even man the landing craft of the things, without calling up reservists to help. It will be interesting to see if one of these is actually operational & available next time we have cyclone victims needing help.

They can never fully man more than 3 of the subs, & often only have 2 with full crew. Fortunately that doesn't matter much, when the things can't get past Broom without a repair job, @ that idiot Turnbull wants to get 12 built by the same incompetent South Australian mob.

I suppose we might be able to find enough stokers to run a couple, if they are any better than this lot.

Unless we start treating our service men a hell of a lot better than we now do, & attract enough people to man even what we have, we are just wasting money getting new ships.

We could give the admirals some rubber duckies to play with in the bath. For all the use our navy really is, this would be about as effective.

Don't know what all the hoo-ha is about if anyone wants to invade Australia all they have to do is pick an appropriate weekend....usually a long one.
Now if someone, say NK, were to waste munitions on Australia we should be extremely flattered 'cos what a waste of resources that would be.
Now NK may be what it is, but stupid isn't one of them.
This is between NK and the US with NK showing SK that in the end the US will throw SK to the wolves.
My perception is that NK wants unification but without US presence....and it will happen, sooner or later.
Why Australia needs to be seen as taking sides is beyond me but there you have it...our 'merican efwits ask Australia to show solidarity in postulation and Australia can't wait to accept the role of water boy.
First in the decimation of Iraq and on from there.
I wanted to believe Australia would, one day, stand on it's own hind legs and seek it's own determination but given the calibre of political leadership and the inclination of the masses I think the indigenous could do a better job

Want us to stand on our own hind legs ilmessaggio, then we'll have to increase our defence budget to at least 8% of GDP, & find a way of making the defence force a more pleasant place to work.

That would cut about half our welfare & health care government spending.
No government could survive such a change, so don't hold your breath waiting for us to become independent any time soon.