Dear o sung wu,

Entirely agree. It seems like due process is being followed as any even minded person would expect.

However I now see there is a gofundme page set up to 'get David Dunstan's weapons back'. I'm not sure what it is trying to achieve besides hyping the issue for political ends. Perhaps they might have a case if his weapons end up being confiscated permanently, but for now should just be letting things be dealt with appropriately.

Dear foxy,

Couldn't have summarised my thoughts better if I had done it myself. :) There will be the usual crowd trying very hard to make this about personal gun rights which it isn't, but we shouldn't be surprised, their true colours are as always in pretty plain sight.

Dear SteeleRedux,

Thank You for your kind words.

It will be interesting to see what develops as far
as Mr Dunstan is concerned. I suspect that things
will end well. I am familiar
with the Albury region - having studied in that
area. The people out there are very down-to-earth
and it usually takes a great deal to stir them up.

Steele and Foxy,

What would you have done?

Dear Is Mise,

I've been bailed up once before by a young man
who was drug-affected. It was at night and I
was on my way to an evening lecture. He demanded
money from me. All I had on my was not very much.
I asked him to leave me a few coins so that I
could get a cup of coffee during my break in
the evening lecture but that he was welcome to
the rest of my money - which I gave him. He did
let me have a couple of dollars. And he went on his
way. I saw him a couple of days later in the street
with friends. I never reported the incident to
the police.

So in the case of the farmer? - I would probably
have called the police - and tried talking to the
young bloke to calm him down until the police
arrived. Again I probably would have offered him
money as well

Burglary is on the increase and unlike some other crimes, relatively few cases are closed. Home invasion is considered to be a possible, very frightening event by the public.

In Foxy's case by her own documented admission, available to police investigators from review of her posting on forums, her internet records, which are looked at in the authorised home search where a serious incident is thought to have occurred, she likely voids her right of self defence, declaring that she has not felt the need before in similar circumstances and she details alternative steps she considers most relevant, suitable and adequate.

If she ever does self defend or does not act to prevent some Samaritan doing it on her behalf, her lawyer will be facing a difficult time, in a situation (with forward-looking SA differing, I believe) where it is required to meet the reversed standard of proof, in Vic,

"A person is not guilty of an offence if the person carries out the conduct constituting the offence in self-defence.

A person carries out conduct in self-defence if:

(a) the person believes that the conduct is necessary in self-defence; and

(b) the conduct is a reasonable response in the circumstances as the person perceives them.

(3) This section only applies in the case of murder if the person believes that the conduct is necessary to defend the person or another person from the infliction of death or really serious injury."

So Foxy's response puts her in the the very small number, rare, public who do not fear serious harm is a very high likelihood, a distinct and imminent possibility where confronted by an armed thug.

contd..
As a most serious duty, not mentioned, overlooked in the media, but also placed on the courageous farmer, is that he being firearms licensed has responsibility for his firearms, and even a fired, empty case falls into the hands of an unlicensed person he himself will face serious firearms charges.

Of course the farmer and family and the unfortunate neighbours whose home safety and privacy were similarly violated, would be exactly the opposite to Foxy, they believing that their lives and those of their loved ones and the public were at risk. Bleeding out from a knife wound is highly likely and all that matters is very fast transport to a hospital and an operating team waiting.