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Doing the right thing?

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SteeleRedux - I think an important factor in this is "Time"

It has been established 3 hours prior quote "appeared at a nearby property outside a child’s bedroom window before smashing a kitchen window"
Did police attend the incident if so they should have been in the area looking for him.

Quote "police were on their way" How long, we don't know it could have been hours, especially in the countryside.

Old saying - Better to be tried by 12 people than carried by 6 people.
Posted by Philip S, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 10:58:47 AM
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The bloke has clearly committed an offence, by 'forcing' this fellow into his car for the purpose of conveying him to the police station at Albury. The word 'force' would trouble the Court? Ostensible because this offender may have been under the impression, that if if failed to accompany this farmer with the .22, he might well be shot? Whether the F/A is loaded or not, the offender doesn't know?

What would I do if confronted at home at 0330hrs by some 'Dork', knocking on my door at such an ungodly hour, armed with a knife and bit of wood? The same as the farmer probably. Is there an offence in what he did at that time? No there isn't. Did he menace the 'Dork', with the rifle? No. Is it an offence to carry around a rifle in the privacy of your own home, or the curtilages thereof? Again no. You have the right to protect yourself and your property from such an intrusion.

The offence is disclosed by 'forcing' said 'Dork' into the car, it's the forcing that causes the trouble? I'm with STEELEREDUX on this one I'm afraid.
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 12:06:52 PM
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Quote from the article.
"Police did not want to comment on the development, but had earlier urged people to call Triple-0 during emergencies."

My experience at dialing Triple 0. One for Assault. "6 hours." No witnesses, nothing done.

One for being threatened with a pistol. "Next day." No witnesses nothing done

One for reporting the next door farmer for shooting my puppy that got through a hole in the fence & approached him looking for a pat. "4 hours." No witnesses nothing done.

All three concern the same farmer. Police says the farmer told them he doesn't own a pistol & they take his word over mine because he is old time local family. I was warned by the locals that I'd have trouble with him when I moved in. All seven people on his Boundary have had trouble with him, Telecom & The Electricity Company won't go on the Property.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 12:26:45 PM
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An acquaintance with a farm near a small Queensland town was having trouble with his wife's ex boyfriend. This yobbo had taken to coming by, drunk & threatening some nights after the pub shut. He asked the head cop at the small police station what he should do about it.

The advice was simple, "don't hurt him under any circumstances. Hurt him & our heads will take his word as gospel. The best you could expect would be bankruptcy from defending yourself in court".

"On the other hand, if he's dead he can't be interviewed, can he".
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 1:41:17 PM
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o sung wu, "The offence is disclosed by 'forcing' said 'Dork' into the car, it's the forcing that causes the trouble? I'm with STEELEREDUX on this one I'm afraid"

An emphatic 'No' to that, I am afraid.

Just a reminder that the feral invaded his home and threatened him and his family with weapons.

Exactly how would a prosecutor hope to prove that the farmer, the victim, 'kidnapped' the assailant by restraining him and taking him to a police station?

He should be putting in a claim for vehicle allowance and cleaning.
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 1:43:57 PM
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OK, LEOJ, whatever you say!
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 3:02:51 PM
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