Seems like the con started a long time ago.

From article.

several articles warning Americans of the perils of global warming, several dating back to the early 1930s.

In the article below, dated May 15th, 1932,(article link below)

the NY Times cites scientific research that said the center of Greenland was ~9,000 ft thick and the edges ~4,000.

...1,000m or 3,200 ft around the edges and 2,500m at the center or 8,200ft, roughly a 10% reduction from 75 years ago. Bear in mind, the instruments used to measure the thickness of the ice was rudimentary at best, back in 1932, so there must be some margin for error. Having said that, given the frantic panic, this is hardly a rate of change worthy of panic.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Reminder%3A_Experts_Have_Been_Warning_Us_About_Global_Warming_Since_the_1930s/60722/0/38/38/Y/M.html

The endless propaganda and useless words masquerading as public discussion in this country is now a proven joke given the ruling by the high court on the ssm marriage survey that will cost the tax payer millions and it won't even be compulsory: or even an official vote!

It's a murderously expensive survey and we all know people lie on them to keep the pollies on their toes.

Look at the price of houses and university fees in this country, for further instance, that very often have no jobs at the end of them amking the dream of a house murderously frustrating to achieve for many who battled hard to go to a University in the first place let alone spend 4 years faithfully gring away at after 12 years of boring school.

This is a country that used to have a future but the kids don't have too many options anymore except to never make a mistake from cradle to grave or they will be on the street. Who can live with that kind of pressure?

Take immigration: it's too damn high.

No one is allowed to argue the point.

This country has a serious problem... I call a revolt!

The commentariat for the yes vote simply lie about what ssm is about.

It's not about love... it's about the institution of marriage!

To tell the no vote, ...and politicians are saying this baloney.., that everything the no vote wants to talk about is irrelevant is very very fishy behaviour for a campaign who alleges that they want a respectful debate and I would expect a clever country to reflect that when they cast their opinion for the bureau of statistics.

...our politicians shouldn't be telling us what to think in a survey should they? Where is the respect for the opinions of the people they allege to represent?

Just who is in charge of democracy? Why should the tail wag the dog?

I call for a revolt: this is very very fish stuff indeed, atleast from my point of view.

Who agrees?

yep the confusion over energy prices shows how the regressives how dumbed down so many. A country with so much coal and gas sent down the tube by regressives including Turnbull having to adopt the gw false religion to display some sort of superiority. As usual the sucker public have to pay.

Global Warming is real: you must know nothing.

The question is over how fast it's going so in that respect the so called denialists have every right to claim alarmism.

Alamism is a political technique to draw attention... surely you know this!

The way campaigns and propaganda(advertising) work is with the subtle use of language to try and attempt to argue that black is actually white. This is what con-artists do so the best piece of advice is to stay away from them but when it's all over the media it's hard to get away... just like kids junk food ads et al!

But to try and argue that man isn't contributing to climate change by burning fossil fuels is simply wrong.

Cupric Embarrasment Quote "Global Warming is real: you must know nothing."

Where is you proof it is real?

For every point you make, others can provide refuting evidence also scientists that supported it have been proven wrong some have outright refused to show the data they made the claims from so no one can verify what they say

Philip, the sea ice in the Arctic is melting.

Can you refute that?

Correct but I asked for proof not a statement.

So what about the ice-age are humans responsible for all that ice melting?

How do you know this is not just a 1 in a million year natural event?

Cupric Embarrasment
'Global Warming is real: you must know nothing'

telling lies often enough does not make it true. Man made gw is nothing more than a myth.

Global Warming is true. It is a naturally occurring phenomenon. Happens all the time when in opposition to Global Cooling, which is what we have experienced in a minor way over the past two decades.

Man Made Global Warming or Climate Change, is a total scam and lie, designed to snare sovereign states into a draconian world wide plan that will see instituted a One World Government that will tell each state how they will live and what they can spend their money on.
See the late Prof. Bob Carter on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRCISn1KfKQ
The world lost a great mind, when he died!

As for the SSM evil, it has nothing to do with marriage. This is a push by Cultural Marxists to restrict 'Freedom of Speech' and remove the control parents have over their children. Don't believe me, just look what has happened in other countries that have already legalised this disgusting SSM.
It's called Communism through the back door!

Cupric Embarrassment: But to try and argue that man isn't contributing to climate change by burning fossil fuels is simply wrong.

Well of course it is. But, .1 of 1%? That's the estimate of Coal Fired Power Stations. Even people breathing out contributes more that that. There are ways to reduce CO2. Stop drinking Carbonated Drinks. This puts more CO2 in the air that all the Coal Fired Power Stations on Earth. I use a Mig Welder, Guess what? I literally pour CO2 into the Atmosphere. Add up all the MIG Welders in the World, that's an awful lot of CO2 right there. One Volcano will double what man puts out.

"The Powers that Be" are making lots of money off this fear. That's who wants an Emissions Trading Scheme. They can make a killing out of nothing but peoples fear.

Anyone who actually believes the global warming fraud, after all the exposure of the various con jobs, straight lies, & corrections to the temperature record, always upward, is a "bloody idiot" as the drink driving add goes.

Even now the Oz bureau has been caught taking one second "flash" readings for the highest reading, but setting a low cut off point, bellow which the temperature is not recorded at all their stations.

They did deny this for some time, until a smart researcher proved it was being done, against the recommendations of the world meteorology organisations. Now they admit using this technique, but have not changed it except where caught out.

I doubt even most Greens believe the rubbish, they just latch onto the fraud to use it to further their radical objectives.

Hasbeen - Don't forget the rigged figures by taking the temperatures near or in big cities, which will make the average higher.

Don't forget: everything's rigged but only by the left because privatised profits don't exist!

This whole forum is a sham!

How come Phillip s has a post before mine when I started the thread?

Is that called getting the first word in?

Is this forum a sham?

Hi there ME x 6...

In your second last post, you assert inter alia '...This whole Forum is a sham...'! Yet in you last post you then say, '...Is this Forum a sham...'? Seemingly, you've made an assertion, immediately followed up by a degree of uncertainty? It would appear that you're uncertain as to what it is you're trying to say apropos the veracity and fidelity of this august Forum?

I would therefore respectfully suggest your question(s) might be -

Q. 1 - Is the Forum a sham; A. Of course not it's just a forum; 'A meeting or medium for the purpose of exchanging views and opinions, therefore it could hardly be a sham in itself.

Q. 2 - Are some of the views and/or opinions expressed by some individuals participating in that forum, pretentious, fake, fraudulent or pure humbug, absolutely. Though divergently, some views and opinions discussed therein or thereat are quite verifiable, and authentic in every circumstance.

I do therefore hope, this is of some minor assistance to you, ME x 6 ?

Me6 is revolting because shams are proved be natural cycles and power stations aren't , they're rigged which is a damn sham and is it a sham or not is the main question. Isn't it?

If there is nothing left to stand for, except to revolt against the system them be prepared. There are no privite revolts any more. They are either supported by other authorities and the revolt is no longer in your hands, or the revolt is squashed terribly, leaving a potiential bigger reason for revolt in the carcasses of the old revolt.

Civil war is an option, and if backed internationally there don't have to be a winner. They can support the fight even after there is nothing left. Look at Syria closely before approaching the idea of revolt.

Me 6 or is it Cupric Embarrasment, because the thread was started by Cupric Embarrasment.

Which ever the case you did not answer my questions here they are again.

So what about the ice-age are humans responsible for all that ice melting?

How do you know this is not just a 1 in a million year natural event?

The location first could be because of the time you will see at the bottom of the post.

Philip S,

Why is your post first when I started the thread?

(Sham forum is the suspected answer!)

** That is what everyone REALLY wants to know... not your bulldust about selling more oil to the Hollywood infected billions of "fashionistas" aka feminist wh&%^#s!

Cupric Embarrasment - What drugs are you on?

I have no idea how it got first.

Now please explain your diatirbe Quote "not your bulldust about selling more oil to the Hollywood infected billions of "fashionistas" aka feminist wh&%^#s!"

Where is my comment like that?

I think you should take advantage of free psychiatric help offered my medicare.

Bulldust oil is anti-biotic used by 4 out of 10 Hollywood feminists' psychiatrists while Obamacare swamps are rigged.

No point arguing about global warming.
The world energy return on energy invested for both oil and coal are
falling and one day, world wide, we will no longer be able to afford
to use them.

We need to get ourselves base load power and we should start work
yesterday on nuclear energy, Australia is in a lucky position with
coal so we can stretch out our use of coal while we build a processing
system for uranium and thorium and build a nuclear power system while
we can afford it.

The Americans don't want us to use Nuclear Power!