With the suggestion of replacing fathers day with 'special persons day' now a hot debate, thanks largely to Woolworths, is this just the beginning of what these people have on their agenda.

Whether a child is raised by two women or not, that child has a father because like it or not, the sperm used to conceive the child came from a male. Same goes for two men raising a child, like it or not, the child has a mother and they also have a right to acknowledge/celebrate that person if the so choose. But either way, 'Special Person Day' is just wrong in my view.

Whether or not that child, once old enough, wishes to celebrate or acknowledge the father/donor or mother for that matter, is up to the child to decide, not the two fathers/mothers or even Woolworths for that matter.

I fear this is just the beginning of a long list of demands these queers are going to keep pushing for.

Of cause the simple answer is to amend the marriage act with an alternative clause that says 'A union between two people' whereby gay and heterosexual couples alike can use this line if they so choose.

The problem ahead is that if the 'No' vote gets up we will never hear the end of it, which would be fine except for the hundreds of millions of 'Borrowed Dollars' we have and may well continue to pump into this so called important issue.

Don't worry about asking the people if we should go to war, because obviously that's just not as important as gays rights to marry. Go figure!

It is the start....

Dear rehctub,

I was going to reply to you in some detail.
And actually agree with most of what you were posting.
However, you lost me with your reference to
"these queers."

My thoughts exactly, Foxy.

Such talk is not indicative of someone who is willing to engage in the issues seriously and thoughtfully.

As for the "survey", it may not even happen now going by the facts presented to the High Court yesterday.

How much love do LGBTPWBQNDB have for animals and whales? The field creatures have rights and need understanding for mating habits. Either cattle and mice get married or the gay specials are rutting .

rechtub,

It is not 'discrimination', because the politically correct 'Progressives' (Regressives) relegate mothers to the 'special persons' category too.

One suspects that Gays are already ruing the day they allowed the feminists and the attention-seeking Gay Pride bullies to lead.

Julia Gillard and the Emily's Listers soon made their $$ hay out of revised de facto 'relationship' married status, as the opportunist educated middle class are good at doing. As a bonus they got to hollow-out and devalue 'traditional marriage' (sic) that feminists have long hated, along with family.

The elite did very well for themselves. They will roll in the hay forever.

But the rest, the 'punters' (as the political elite rudely regard the public), not so well, now being subject forever to the State, public servants and Courts and lawyers, telling them if they are in a 'relationship' or not and enforcing the full expensive procedural complexity of the federal law and court appearances to resolve issues that homosexuals were previously able, adult, to resolve by themselves.

Any wonder the legal fraternity are laughing all of the way to the bank and the Federal Court is swamped, 2-4 year delays in Queensland for instance, while the unfortunate victims (they ARE victims!) of the legal paraphernalia expend their assets and go broke. $20-30k just to get to a mediation and then another $60k+. Meanwhile, assets are frozen and encouraged legal/adversarial-induced hatreds fester, along with alienation. Alienation against society too, where resources are usually so depleted that one or both can be reduced to a room in a boarding house.

There is no going back now. It was always the 'Progressives' presuming to know what was good for them and that being overshadowed by the selfish interests and idealism of the so-called 'Progressive' elite.

I don't believe that the majority of homosexuals were ever properly informed and consulted. That is a pity and lost opportunities. Because modern life, especially the technology we have implemented before we understood it, does need different options, different lifestyles and group solutions, in housing& transport, as examples.