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Are our gun laws being weakened?

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Paul.

"Issy, now you are putting yourself up as a greater expert than Acting Assistant Commissioner Dave Donohue,"

I don't know what his qualifications are but I do know mine and among other things, I am recognized as an expert in the field of firearms by the High Court of Australia.

The SKS is not an assault rifle because it is not fully automatic.

It is considered to be a medium power round.

For comparison:

SKS...1,555 ft/lbs of muzzle energy.
.303 British...2,554 ft/lbs.
.450 Martini Henry...1,943 ft/lbs.
.577 Enfield...1,689 ft/lbs

The Martini-Henry was used in the Zulu War etc of the late 19th Century and was replaced by the SMALL bore .303.
The .577 Enfield 1853 pattern was used in the Indian Rebellion, US Civil War etc.

Note that the .577 Enfield, a antique muzzle loader, is more powerful than the SKS and is not required to be registered, nor are owners required to hold a firearms licence.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 8 September 2017 12:30:35 AM
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Issy, cut out the jargon, and just cut to the chase, if your were staring down the barrel of this loaded gun when the bloody thing went off, what do expect the result would be? If you say it would give you a mild headache and nothing more, then I'll accept its not a dangerous weapon! if you say it would blow your bloody head off then its a dangerous weapon, in my book.

p/s Maybe it is safe enough to replace the 'Oozie' for child firearm training down at your local 'Burgers and Bullets' franchise.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 8 September 2017 1:55:03 AM
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Paul,

Which gun laws have been weakened?

Since 1996 we have had additional laws about ammunition, laws limiting the calibre of allowable pistols, laws about hunting, all supposed to strengthen the gun laws and currently, we have the lamentable failure (so far) of the amnesty.

So where is the weakening?
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 8 September 2017 2:17:02 AM
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Where are you, Paul & Co?

You were bleating about the gun laws being weakened, here's a chance to tell us all just how.

You bleated about police being given some discretion re safe storage etc., but in fact, them being allowed some discretion strengthens the law because unless police are allowed some discretion then prosecution for very minor breaches causes disrespect for the law, wastes the time of police and the courts as well as money.

You bleated about the waiving of the 24 days waiting period for second and subsequent acquisition of registered firearms.
Are the Greens so stupid that they think that the police have to wait until a person makes a second (+) application and then go through the full vetting process before they know that the person shouldn't have a firearm and act accordingly?
Either the Greens don't trust the efficiency of our police or their demands are merely vexatious and designed to annoy law abiding citizens with whom they disagree.

The waiving of the 24 day period for second (+) firearms is common sense and a strengthening of the law.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 8 September 2017 11:35:18 PM
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Issy, are you bleating about, magistrates been given discretionary powers when determining jail sentences for gun offences, which the Greens support. Not the grandstanding by the ambulance chasing Shooters and Hooters, with their insincere calls for mandatory sentences. BTW I can you and leoj hanging out of the back of that ambulance feeding the pack of trolls in hot pursuit.

Been a busy day with local council elections in Sydney. A good one for the Greens. I was over in Randwick where The Shooters and Hooters were running a ticket, they were polling their usual 2% of the vote. What can you expect when your candidates are a pair of jackasses
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 9 September 2017 11:59:18 AM
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Paul,

Which are the laws that you and the Greens claim to have been weakened?

The Greens know all that there is to know about ambulance chasing, having perfected the art over the years.

When did the SF&Fs chase ambulances?

Sounds like another Green lie to me.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 9 September 2017 11:14:16 PM
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