Hi there JAYB...

Very occasionally they'll nail a Mr Big, generally it's a pretty rare event I'm reluctant to say. In my 32 years I can honestly say a legitimate Mr Big has never toppled, even in our sister States; of Victoria and Queensland. Sure VICPOL got MOCKBEL,and that was a nice pinch no doubt, but a Mr Big, those at the very top who orchestrate and determines what's what? Unfortunately, you just don't see it. Sure most detectives can name a few of these so called Mr Bigs, but knowing something, and later proving it in Court, well...?

The author of the Topic CHRISGAFF1000 is a retired copper (Detective) of considerable adroitness and policing experience in his chosen profession, and a Vietnam Veteran. But you'd need a dozen CHRIS'S in the police, plus a dozen like minded senior politicians, even to make a definitive dent in these matters. Still one can only hope, who knows what the future may bring?

To defeat most organised crime;

(a) One must first inveigle and if necessary, coerce, compel, even threaten our political master's to fully back the police and not allow those of them who're already suspect, to hide behind some inchoate offence that he can easily wriggle away from;

(b) And one of the most difficult areas - The Judiciary a power unto itself. Independent of the politicians, often appointed for life, and by far the most cunning of the entire trio of law enforcement; and perhaps the most difficult of all to persuade, to support police in these matters?

(c) Turn our prison, our gaols, back into a place of strict discipline, with privileges that must be earned and continued to be earned, otherwise they lose them? So much crime is organised and dictated from maximum security gaols. Gaol is a hotbed of crime, especially drugs. Where all the various talents are grouped together and able to conspire for the common purpose. And collude and conspire they do JAYB, believe me.

Kids simply need good role models: greed is their role model these days!

Disillusionment is what leads people to drugs... as a labour voter I must say I do support the Libs attempts to do something in the way of drug testing those on the dole! It sends the right message and this is the kind of role model that kids need to get through their growing up process in one piece.

Drugs are scary: every family knows bad things and it hurts so much so I do congratulate the Libs on this point.

This country needs to find it's heart and soul again: so well done to the Libs on a very important issue that impacts real lives. Of course general law and order issues can't go badly at election time but this is attacking the problem from a different angle and deserves credit for its real ambition.

Hopefully it will save lives and bring more piece and less fear to the streets of this country as this whole world seems to be coming under the grip of this problem in a more and more real way each day: society needs to find a solution and by reaching for proper solutions and showing our young that we really do care for their welfare then the business model fails for the dark side and the light side wins.

If we have kids we must look after them... I see this as a very positive move as the kids learn by what we do! It's the role of the role model!

Once again: It's the role of the role model!!