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This mornings news says it all the federal government has blocked the Medea's right to review those early AWAs.
If those who think such a move is ok could just research why it is being done.
And if they could just look at the facts about those early crimes against low income Australians.
Oh yes some are very well served by AWAs, but for every high to middle income worker on one, who sat down and worked one out with the employer.
10 exist that saw an imposed AWA ,no choice sigh it or you have not got a job, almost 1 in 5 took every award condition away.
most ,near every one took some conditions away.
From Australian workers ,not unionists most could not afford union dues on the wages they had before that AWA.
Many did not want to be in a union.
Workchoices took to these working Aussies like a dog to a rabbit.
That is why this government so full of lies and miss information, so well represented by its foolish lie bloated IR minister hides the truth from us all.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 6:21:13 AM
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Belly,
Well said!

If it was good news they'd be shouting it from the rooftops and taking out full-page ads in all the newspapers.

If it's like this in "boom times", what have we got in store when the economy turns bad?
Posted by wobbles, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 2:02:53 PM
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For some the true powerless, the economy has turned bad.
It did so the day an AWA was imposed on them, lower wages and less conditions.
But yes the economy can not sail on at record levels forever a bust is just a sure bet.
I want to highlight again most victims of workchoices so far have not been unionists ,true, low income earners and casuals are mostly non union.
Howard understands this and that the first round in his personal war is against those who already are suffering.
WHY?
why s our government hiding the results of these first AWAs?
Why are we not trusted to know?
John Howard shame bloke shame.
John on election night at about 6.30 and your massive loss is clear I want you to understand those victims of your spite driven workchoices will join me in a beer.
Any chance mare that you may cry just a little for us?
Big Mal did and we remember with joy.
This voter asks why not let us know those locked away results
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 4:50:50 PM
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Deliberately blocking the media from accessing these documents indicates that Howard has something to hide from us.

Unfortunately this also indicates our powerlessness in the face of corrupt government.
Posted by Steel, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 9:15:22 PM
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It amounts to this, this shambolic government has told us we can not see our own opinions!
Having worn out the country's Patience with lies and miss information it now in the lowest way censors what we can read.
It may well not be too late Mr Howard, given the bloated numbers you have so badly miss used in the house.
Say yourself and about 8 of your front bench go now, free up the party from its failures.
Bring a true Liberal to the leadership role say now.
Or give those like myself the best present ever on election night.
A mirror image of Mad Marks train wreck , but this time the Howard driven lies and plausible denieability express.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 7:50:20 AM
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If AWAs are such a good idea, why were they so toxic when they were voluntary ?
Posted by aspro, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 1:58:17 PM
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Belly
Ok . Lets just say we were to try to look at Rudd in a new light.
He seems fresh and determinded. Ok
So what ideas do you have for Ministers and staff?
Nobody can run a country alone Belly no matter how good.
I have time for Beattie however they dont get alone and Peter will leave soon.
Remember we are pretty familar with labours talents , or lack of.
So whats he going to do for 'skilled' staff?
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 7 July 2007 10:57:05 PM
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belly
Well there you go ladies and Gents- A typical labour answer.

Thats what Kevin did as well when our office contacted him about the involemement of AWB in Live Animal Exports when the AWB enquiry was underway.
He was the shadow Minister but failed to inform the public as to the AWBs interests - not only in wheat but the barbaric live animal trade.

When they questions get too hard we simply dont answer.

At least with the elections we will see the Greens take up some more seats at the loss of the Dems. There was so much more the dems and Andrew could have should have done.
Although I am not big on some of the Greens suppport for gays I am very happy to see their humane attitude and sensible approach to our meat trade and live exports.
If the Greens get some more say in the senate we might get some more fair minded policys underway.
So Belly Bring on Rudd.

I have changed teams - Vote for Rudd.

Its called politics.

Oh and by the way I never was happy with Howards discusting! attitude towards live exports.

However its time to consider ALL living creatues which only Bob Brown seems to give a toss about.
Browns sees the missed oportniutys of not processing our own products and keeping jobs here at least.
Give Bown more say in the Senate .
To do that we should vote labour.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Thursday, 12 July 2007 5:01:51 AM
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belly
Well there you go ladies and Gents- A typical labour answer.

Thats what Kevin did as well when our office contacted him about the involemement of AWB in Live Animal Exports when the AWB enquiry was underway.
He was the shadow Minister but failed to inform the public as to the AWBs interests - not only in wheat but the barbaric live animal trade.

When they questions get too hard we simply dont answer.

At least with the elections we will see the Greens take up some more seats at the loss of the Dems. There was so much more the dems and Andrew could have should have done.
Although I am not big on some of the Greens suppport for gays I am very happy to see their humane attitude and sensible approach to our meat trade and live exports.
If the Greens get some more say in the senate we might get some more fair minded policys underway.
So Belly Bring on Rudd.

I have changed teams - Vote for Rudd.

Its called politics.

Oh and by the way I never was happy with Howards discusting! attitude towards live exports.

However its time to consider ALL living creatues which only Bob Brown seems to give a toss about.
Browns sees the missed oportniutys of not processing our own products and keeping jobs here at least.
Give Bown more say in the Senate .
To do that we should vote Greens or labour.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Thursday, 12 July 2007 5:02:37 AM
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