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Man has to become a human being

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People will fear and ridicule that what they don't understand. Suspicion of other cultures and peoples gives rise to negative stereotyping, prejudices, hatred even acts of violence towards groups who are perceived as different ethnically, socially and or culturally. There is nothing new in that, it is well documented throughout history, and continues in the world today.
That is not to say we in our modern western society should ignore problems and dangers associated with particular groups within our society, to do so would be foolhardy in the extreme. However, we do need to establish a balance between the extremes if we are going to deal effectively with issues that confront us.
Foxy's posts makes the valid point that it is through educating ourselves to the realities of other cultures, and dismissing the baseless negativity we have created in our own culture, then progress can be made towards a more harmonious existence. Religion is a leading determinate in what influences our thinking both positively and negatively.

To quote; "If one finds peace and love in one's creed,
that is a positive result not just for the person in
question but also for society. But it is just as likely
that one will find war and hate in the same religion
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 6 August 2017 5:40:43 PM
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Dear Paul,

British educator Susan Bassnet writes:

"Education is about teaching children to grow
up into adults who will take some responsibility
for the world they inhabit, and who therefore
will understand why they cast their votes in
elections; why concern about climate change is
essential; why preventive healthcare matters;
why history remains relevant in modern society;
why it is important to learn about how other
cultures operate in a globalised, computer-driven,
but also divided world."

Perhaps above all, education is about teaching
people who to think and how to question what they
see and hear.

http://humaneeducation.org/blog/2009/education-must-be-the-key-to-creating-a-better-world/
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 6 August 2017 7:52:53 PM
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My distant relative was sent on a convict ship for stealing a sheep, (and had I been alive at the time I may have helped him) maybe things were different back them but I don't see why I should tolerate or have pity on theives in this day and age.
The government takes from every worker to make sure no one goes without already.
Take this Elijah story where a young aboriginal kid was killed and a caucasion man was jailed for running him over on a motorbike he owned after the kid stole it...
The left is saying he should've went to jail for longer, but no-one is asking why aboriginal kids think its normal to steal from white people, why their parents teach them that its ok to steal...
In America they carry on with the same BLM stuff, but the real truth is if a black person went into Atlanta or Chicago and tried to steal from another black person there they wouldn't be calling the police, they'd be laying be laying dead in the street.
And so black people steal from white people because they see whites as easy targets and then cry racist when caught.
I watched a Mark Latham video today and he pointed to a story where jobs are being advertised for Female Police OIC's. They are specifically asking for women due to a push for diversity, rather than merit.
I hardly recognise this country its changing so fast.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:06:17 PM
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AC, your ancestor was most like transported for being a poor member of the wrong social class, the stealing of a sheep was a pretext to rid British society of that time, of one more undesirable.

"The government takes from every worker to make sure no one goes without already." Without what?

"Take this Elijah story where a young aboriginal kid was killed and a caucasion man was jailed for running him over on a motorbike he owned after the kid stole it." On face value are you saying if someone steals your property, you have the right to take their life in exchange?

The black Americans you are going on about, are they the product of the stealing of black Africans by white Americans?

"And so black people steal from white people because they see whites as easy targets" Is the boot on the other foot now.

"I watched a Mark Latham video" Latham seems to be trying to make himself the new messiah of the far right, failed at everything else he's tried, may as well give that a go.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 6 August 2017 10:47:44 PM
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Dear Paul,

That young Aboriginal boy did not steal the bike.
The bike had been discarded and dumped outside of
town where other bikes were left and dumped.
The white guy deliberately ran the young boy down.
Killed the young boy and walked free.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:29:16 PM
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Dear Foxy,

I like your quotes of Tor Hundloe.

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Dear Paul,

«Are property right predominant over human rights?»

How can one have human rights without property rights?
If you reside on another's property (private or communal, it really makes no difference), then you are subject to the whims of the owner(s).
If your clothes, food and shelter can be taken away by others, then you must become a beggar and subject yourself to their rules.

Owning property is practically the best, if not the only, way to try to secure your freedom and dignity.

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Dear Ezhil,

I still didn't have the time to comment and do justice to your topic.

In a word, there is confusion and sloppy inter-mixing between humans and us. Humans are mere objects: highly functional objects, but meaningless and dead on their own. The importance of a human arises when s/he serves us by allowing us to become conscious of the world through him/her.

While humans are limited, we should not identify with them, but rise above and beyond the human that we currently happen to be working and experiencing the world through.

Time allowing, I will focus on your specific statements in the light of distinguishing between statements about ourselves and statements about our humans.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 6 August 2017 11:35:58 PM
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