that should be 'bandied'.

To add to my last para above, what youth should be also aware of are the risks run by whistleblowers, their tremendous courage and the inevitable, awful, career- and life-ruining consequences for such good citizens.

Politicians usually enjoy ready consensus on anything that benefits politicians and the granting of Australian Honours to politicians and those who have served their short term interests is one such. There are so many examples of that in recent years of political correctness that the Australian Honours are now regarded with suspicion, even scoffed at.

In a better world it would be the members of the public who give unstinting service in others (yes, a few gets Honours to salt the sludge) and civic-minded whistleblowers would be there on the stage, being lauded for their courage.

Need anyone wonder why politicians have such a low standing and now even the Parliament is regarded as a collector of refuse, to be emptied not as often as it should be. The Senate especially is smelling like ripe offal. But even in the face of that, along come Shorten and fool Turnbull to fly the kite for an extra year for themselves, and presumably two terms making eight (8!) for 'long term' senators.

One rule for them and another rule for the public.

Dear Is Mise,

"porci volaverit?"

Well, as it turns out, pigs can fly
(they just don't fly the plane).

Foxy,

You've taken care of the Latin, now address the English bit.

Dear Is Mise,

That's already been done in this discussion.

"Both Ludlam and Waters would have to be the most sanctimonious, egocentric, self-serving, overbearing twerps a member of the public might come across in a month of Sundays."

Unless of course they had met YOU LEO! Then that wouldn't apply.

Leoj, You are inconsistent, because these are Greens you are carrying on like a jackass. Nothing said when your own parties fool, the convicted criminal Rod Culleton, (does it run in the One Nation family), and the mug from Family First, Bob Day were booted.

If you were consistent with your "the law is the law" nonsense, you would be demanding the resignation from Parliament of the Liberal Matt Canavan, regardless of how he became an Italian citizen, through his mother, or through space aliens, it does not matter, the Constitution makes no allowances, if you are an Italian you're out!

Foxy,

Then you might address the fact of the Change Org petition and Ludlam's apparent lack of knowledge of it.

Did none of the Greens see it?
If they did, did they tell him?
If not, why not?
If he knew, and I can't see how he couldn't, then he didn't bother to check, therefore he's a fool, or he did check and therefore he's a liar (par for the Greens).
No one in the Greens Party checked, therefore fools etc, etc.