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50 Years On, Is There Anything To Celebrate?

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Foxy, I'm not sure I understand your comment that aboriginal people don't have the means to determine their own future.
What more do they need?
I have spent the last 47 years living with aboriginal people in the north and when I say living, I mean living with them, not alongside or near. Including the large aboriginal family descended from me.
In all that time I have seen aboriginal people, from full bloods to almost white, making decisions that effect their future, controlling their own lives and those of their children.
People in remote communities have moved into towns. People raised in towns have moved back to their tribal country and community. People have got themselves educated. People have started their own businesses.
We now have aboriginal controlled health services, aboriginal controlled legal services, aboriginal controlled housing services, aboriginal school teachers, nurses, doctors, lawyers etc.
All remote communities are run by elected local councils, all land councils are elected by aboriginal members.
The only remaining issue is the future control of all Native Title Land currently held in trust by the government of each state, whilst trying to determine the best method of handing over title totally to aboriginal people of each language group.
And that my friend, is going to be a bloodbath! Because even before Title is handed over, vicious fights are erupting between family groups, and even within family groups, over who is exactly entitled to what land. And the fights aren't restricted to words!
So, I am at a loss to know what they can't do now.
Posted by Big Nana, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 12:30:57 PM
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One thing is certain, the level of misunderstanding, misinformation, distortions, lies and delusions surrounding Indigenous Australians is enormous.

That is not surprising given that propaganda has been taught to children for the past couple of generations and we have now a largely brainwashed society, at least for those under the age of sixty.

No doubt prior to the rewriting of Aboriginal history, culture and circumstance there was also ignorance but not as much.

My first boyfriend was part Aboriginal. I thought nothing of it. He lived in the same sort of Housing Trust house that we did, went to the same sort of schools and did the same sorts of things. His Aboriginal ancestry was not him, it was just a part of him and no more important than the rest of his ancestry.

But he would never have considered himself really Aboriginal, as so many seek to do today, because he wasn't. The real Aborigines often came down to live with foster parents while they were educated. Sadly, many opted to return to their communities and in the main, the girls were mothers before they were 20 and often dead before they were 30. The lucky or sensible ones never went back.
Posted by rhross, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 12:43:19 PM
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The constitution should treat everyone equally, it is not the place to insert special interests.
I am happy to remove all lines of discrimination from the constitution and recognise them as the original inhabitants, but making consultative committees etc a constitutional item is lunacy.
Everyone should be equal, and no one more equal than others.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 1:07:00 PM
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thanks rhross. Their seems to be more voices of truth and reason starting to challenge the very warped history narrative held on to by the regressives. We know they don't really want to go back to tribal warfare, giving of young girls to old uncles, no buildings, no electricity, no hospitals, no police and a very short life expectancy.Those rotton white males that have delivered and built such a horrible nation that no one wants to come here.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 1:57:58 PM
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@ShadowMinister,

Why would we recognise those with Aboriginal ancestry as original inhabitants, anymore than we would recognise every human being on the planet, including indigenous, as original inhabitants of Africa?

Homo Sapiens emerged around 200,000 years ago and that includes Aborigines so they were also somewhere else for a very long time before they got to Australia. They too are colonisers and given some of the evidence, took this country from others and killed or drove them out.

They certainly did not give those they colonised the sort of rights, benefits and assistance the British gave to them.

More to the point, most indigenous are minimally Aboriginal anyway so to even call them indigenous is ridiculous.
Posted by rhross, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 2:52:16 PM
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rhross,

Good points.

I wonder too who has the most to gain from framing it all in the negative and doing their damnest to ensure that the narrative, expectations and discussion remain stuck in the negative.

There was an elder politician who said that in a one horse race one should always back self-interest. He may have just said money.

I suggest that the funding be cut, which removes the incentive to make bigger problems for the gold that immediately showers from government.

Of course the same argument extends to the white elephant the ABC, that is making a nuisance of itself because it has nothing to do any more. The national broadcaster has fallen off the back of the digital wave anyhow and years ago. Time to put that $1.3 billion of taxpayers money into improving the digital access and education of the burgeoning numbers of seniors and youth who must take up digital to further their own education, relevance and lifestyle.
Posted by leoj, Tuesday, 30 May 2017 3:44:21 PM
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