Foxy,

I have never been and nor will I ever be a supporter of any political party or lobby group.

That is very, very obvious from my posts. I am wedded forever to freedom of speech. Obvious try to make me the subject, but the thread awaits.

- Where there is yet to be any evidence to support proportional representation, but plenty to prove how it is damaging to democracy where protest parties and single interest groups lob in the Senate and blackmail and frustrate the elected, representative government.

leoj,

Not at all. Just trying to figure out your consistent
attacks on the Greens, "Progressives," Lefties,
Emily-listers, and many others.
It's perfectly natural to wonder therefore just who you do
support. We all know from your posts who you're
against.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion.
I don't think that I have anything further to say on
this subject so for me this discussion has now run its
course. I look forward to our next topic.

Have a nice day.

It was dreadfully one-sided as usual. As was said, it sure must be a lark trying to get some speculative gossip going against Turnbull.

Do continue to ignore those elephants in the room. But the stories are in the news anyhow, even if your look the other way:

- the festering sores of SHY, Lee Rhiannon and the NSW 'Watermelons' or Eastern Bloc faction of the Greens that Dr Bob Brown couldn't treat and Dr di Natale is being similarly unsuccessful in treating; and,

- the challenges to Bill Shorten's leadership by Albanese and ors, now Plibersek as well, with Shorten very poor, negative, Parliamentary record; his woeful Budget opposition and reply, and his return at the Labor conference to the unsuccessful Class War of Gillard.

leoj,

What was dreadfully one-sided?

If you mean me and this discussion - how so?

All sorts of views have been presented here
(even yours). However, if you don't like what's
been said - you can always start your own thread.

Oh wait --- looks like you have.

Have fun.

Cheers.

We are told that Peter Costello criticised the proportionally elected Senate as 'irresponsible'. History repeats - the present Senate has the same problems.

"Costello criticises 'irresponsible' Senate

Treasurer Peter Costello has attacked the Senate for threatening to refuse passing some of his budget reforms.
..[Mr Costello] called Labor and the Senate's minor parties "irresponsible", for twice blocking his cuts to the pharmaceutical benefits scheme in the last budget."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2003-05-14/costello-criticises-irresponsible-senate/1853670

That is much the same feedback that you have been given in this thread and which you apparently ignored.

So, Foxy, what did you in fact learn about the downsides of proportional representation and the difficulties faced by any representative government that has to deal with a hostile, bloody-minded Senate with independents throwing their weight around? Or as it appears was the thread just a clumsy selling exercise for a party political script?