Two elections past and we can somehow find a labor person to blame for something.
We had Abbott who was dramatically knifed, then we had Turnbull, and neither has seen fit to do anything about 457 visa’s. Driven by the far right of the liberal party, 457 visa’s stay solidly in place.

Discrimination is a very good thing. It is a pity that the 'leftist 'Progressives' (Regressives), the Chardonnay Marxist elite, have co-opted words for their own political uses, bastardising the practical and expressive English language.

Of course there must be discrimination in 457 Visas and in immigration.

There are needs that give rise to policies and there should be monitoring and continuous improvement to ensure that the needs and good of the Australian population are being served and not just some entrepreneurs who have found a way to suck money from the taxpayer, or economic migrants who are similarly taking advantage.

Where there are demonstrated deficits of skills, 457 visas is a damned good thing.

However, I could never support the cynicism of federal governments that use citizenship as the incentive for increasing the number of overseas students to prop up education suppliers, and as a consequence, good Australian students are being excluded from medical courses because the universities have agreed along with their linked teaching hospitals to set aside places for overseas students.

Nor do I and the vast remainder of the population agree with the leftists who loathe their own kind and who have always promoted 'diversity' as the aim of immigration.

Going back to 457 Visas, I vastly prefer Turnbull who at least will discuss the issue, rather than the always sly and always negative Shorten. As if Shorten was ever interested in workers except as milch cows for his and other union bosses lifestyles.

What do you think of Turnbulls dramatic shift to the left last night.

Australia got the senate it voted for, one that will protect the nanny state and their welfare entitlements.

I hope John Howard rues the push into middle class welfare, which lead to a senate mix that has no intention of supporting anything approaching austerity, and will burden our young with our "bad" debt.

The "Lifters and Leaners" budget and its outcome leading to last night's announcements showed that we haven't the will to stop spending other peoples' money on lifestyles to which we have become accustomed.

There should be no connection between 457 visas and citizenship. Do the job and get out when it's finished or there is an Australian ready to take the job. We do not need more people here permanently. Guest workers only, WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

Yes again, doog; the budget out-Labored Labor. The debt has increased substantially, with an overall tax increase of 7.5%. But, that is what the welfare lovers want, and that's what Turnbull thinks will get him re-elected - stupid and wrong in my opinion.

Has anyone noticed that most abattoirs have closed? When the daily quota for a meat worker got to requiring only 4 hours work, for very high pay, meatworks became unviable, & they disappeared, & live export was the only way to sell cattle.

Noticed that there is stuff all Australian coastal shipping? When crew got conditions of 3 months on, 3 months off, with the highest pay rates in the world, sea freight became too expensive, & freight moved to trucks.

Ever noticed that all our cars are becoming imports? Ever wondered why. $100,000 a year wages for a process worker is why.

Out of control unions have destroyed their own golden egg so many times, & 457 Visas are the result.

People like Shorten have led workers into destroying their industries, just like British unions did before them, & now they bitch, but blame the bosses, not their union thugs.

I find it hard to have much sympathy for the fools that brought it on themselves, by following union crooks.