There is an interesting story on Pickering Post that you will read if you have any interest at all in your country and what is being done to it (and your fellow Australians) by your so-called government and its Chinese mates.

It is to do with inexperienced, untrained 457 visa workers taking work from trained, experienced Australians in a meat company in Queensland. Read it. I no longer have the patience to detail anything for apathetic OLO moaners and groaners who just sit back and snipe at thinkers and doers who raise subjects for discussion.

457 visa's are an attack on AU workers in times of unemployment. So why are these visas allowed to run as a permanent fixture. Surely they can run , then stop, who opened the gates on 457 visas with no end date.
Something happened a couple of years ago that let a stampede of 457 visas loose.

' Something happened a couple of years ago that let a stampede of 457 visas loose.'
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ask your mate Bill Shorten Doog who gave out recoed numbers of 457's. Very short memory.

Yes, it was Bill the Workers' Friend, or his 'workers' party who kicked off the 457 visas, but that is no excuse for Everyone's Enemy, Malcolm Turnbull to continue with them. For what is happening now, Turnbull is 100% to blame.

At lunch, my wife related a story she had heard from a woman who lost her job of many years to a 457 visa parasite. When she complained to the union she was a paid up member of, that 'friend' of the worker told her that it was "just they way of the world". Shortly after that, the bastards had the cheek to send her a membership renewal request!

Doog,

And yes, my "friend", Tony Abbott did not do anything about 457 visas, either.

Interesting to see if the budget changes make a difference or if there are any loopholes in the legislation.

Changes.
From March next year, the levy on foreign workers on certain skilled visas will go towards a new Skilled Australians Fund.

Small business will have to pay $1200 per year for a foreign worker, along with a one-off $3000 payment. Larger businesses would pay $1800 a year per worker, along with a one-off payment of $5000.

This is expected to bring in $1.2 billion over the next four years to go towards training Australian workers.

Two elections past and we can somehow find a labor person to blame for something.
We had Abbott who was dramatically knifed, then we had Turnbull, and neither has seen fit to do anything about 457 visa’s. Driven by the far right of the liberal party, 457 visa’s stay solidly in place.

Discrimination is a very good thing. It is a pity that the 'leftist 'Progressives' (Regressives), the Chardonnay Marxist elite, have co-opted words for their own political uses, bastardising the practical and expressive English language.

Of course there must be discrimination in 457 Visas and in immigration.

There are needs that give rise to policies and there should be monitoring and continuous improvement to ensure that the needs and good of the Australian population are being served and not just some entrepreneurs who have found a way to suck money from the taxpayer, or economic migrants who are similarly taking advantage.

Where there are demonstrated deficits of skills, 457 visas is a damned good thing.

However, I could never support the cynicism of federal governments that use citizenship as the incentive for increasing the number of overseas students to prop up education suppliers, and as a consequence, good Australian students are being excluded from medical courses because the universities have agreed along with their linked teaching hospitals to set aside places for overseas students.

Nor do I and the vast remainder of the population agree with the leftists who loathe their own kind and who have always promoted 'diversity' as the aim of immigration.

Going back to 457 Visas, I vastly prefer Turnbull who at least will discuss the issue, rather than the always sly and always negative Shorten. As if Shorten was ever interested in workers except as milch cows for his and other union bosses lifestyles.

What do you think of Turnbulls dramatic shift to the left last night.

Australia got the senate it voted for, one that will protect the nanny state and their welfare entitlements.

I hope John Howard rues the push into middle class welfare, which lead to a senate mix that has no intention of supporting anything approaching austerity, and will burden our young with our "bad" debt.

The "Lifters and Leaners" budget and its outcome leading to last night's announcements showed that we haven't the will to stop spending other peoples' money on lifestyles to which we have become accustomed.

There should be no connection between 457 visas and citizenship. Do the job and get out when it's finished or there is an Australian ready to take the job. We do not need more people here permanently. Guest workers only, WHEN ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

Yes again, doog; the budget out-Labored Labor. The debt has increased substantially, with an overall tax increase of 7.5%. But, that is what the welfare lovers want, and that's what Turnbull thinks will get him re-elected - stupid and wrong in my opinion.

Has anyone noticed that most abattoirs have closed? When the daily quota for a meat worker got to requiring only 4 hours work, for very high pay, meatworks became unviable, & they disappeared, & live export was the only way to sell cattle.

Noticed that there is stuff all Australian coastal shipping? When crew got conditions of 3 months on, 3 months off, with the highest pay rates in the world, sea freight became too expensive, & freight moved to trucks.

Ever noticed that all our cars are becoming imports? Ever wondered why. $100,000 a year wages for a process worker is why.

Out of control unions have destroyed their own golden egg so many times, & 457 Visas are the result.

People like Shorten have led workers into destroying their industries, just like British unions did before them, & now they bitch, but blame the bosses, not their union thugs.

I find it hard to have much sympathy for the fools that brought it on themselves, by following union crooks.

ttbn,
Up here in Cairns we have a huge kitchen in Brothers Football Club (4.00Am Gambling license) operated by
a Chinese restaurateur who employs all 457 workers because they need to speak Cantonese to communicate.
The operation works 24 hours a day producing food for outside restaurants as well as dive boats and aninternal
bistro where Australians are employed because they are seen by the membership.
There are hundreds of hospitality workers especially cooks out of a job here.
Its been going on for forty five years that I know of.
A clothes shop owner my wife worked for 45 years ago was able to import as 26 year old girl from France
with her chaperone as a fabric cutter because he swore to the government of the day that the skill wasn't
available here in Australia.
That might have been true back then but the scam is at least that old.

Luciferase, why do you choose to propagate the lie that government debt burdens the young?

The young aren't under any obligation to pay off the government's debt. The government's under no obligation to eliminate its debt, so it's not a burden on any generation.

Austerity is generally good in the boom times, as it can create space for more private sector growth. But when there is plenty of spare capacity in the economy, as there is now, all austerity does is weaken the economy. It doesn't even get us any closer to surplus, as the weakening of the economy means there's less tax revenue.

This budget does burden the young, forcing students to start paying back their uni fees even when they're still on low wages. If you're really concerned about the burden on the young, you should be calling for the repayment threshold to be lifted!

chrisgaff1000,

Yes. The whole 457 scam is bordering on treason (by politicians) in my book.

The redneck labor supporters probably don't realise that the greatest numbers of 457 visa workers in history occurred under the last labor government.