"Wife beater"
You know there was a thread a few months back where I went to extreme lengths to make a point to say the current 'Blame the man' policy is leading to more women being abused in DV situations.
It may have looked like I was defending the perpetrator.
Why did I do it?
Because we're not going to be able to build a better system until we get past that 'Blame the man' mentality and move to a position where we educate both parties prior to entering relationships.
Take this article yesterday.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-27/gofundme-page-set-up-nicole-evans-set-alight-by-fiance-allegedly/8477310

Got to admit it'd be real easy to 'Blame the man' in this case though.; however:
Tell me at some point in the next 10 years in jail do you think Matthew John Davey might regret what he did?
Do you also think that Nicole Evens might regret putting his ring on her finger?

That 'regret' will be evidence they were never educated properly to handle a relationship prior to entering it.
And that in itself will prove the current policies are inadequete.
We failed these people because of our incompetence.

Think of this as an idea.
What if we had a program when you earned a 'relationship license' as part of a 'healthy relationship course' and promoted it on facebook like a gimmick by the DV organisations.
Some women will take it seriously and advertise they did it on facebook and others will do the same.
Soon those girls will force the blokes to also do this program.
It would be as easy as promoting some stupid 'Ice Bucket Challenge'

Going back to that earlier article, The result of that healthy relationship education is we might actually create an environment where these things don't happen.

Build emotional trust,
Play fair and listen to your partner,
Resolve problems before they become bigger issues,
Do your best so you don't have regrets,
Know when its time to quit (Toni) when things aren't working out.

It's all very simple.

Heres another article:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/rising-number-of-queensland-teens-face-mental-illness-mission-australia-report-20170418-gvn1t5.html

"More than one in five young Queenslanders could be living with a serious mental illness, according to a report released by Mission Australia... Those who were likely to have a mental illness cited coping with stress, school and study problems, depression and body image as their top issues of concern, according to Mission Australia."

'Depression and body image' - 'insecurities'.

So you've got all these young people on meds, with depression and insecurities going into relationships and finding themselves in situations they aren't given the skills to handle, in environments that often include drugs and alcohol as they get a little older through their teens and 20's, and we're wondering why we have problems with domestic violence.

Are you people insane?

Don't dare blame me for it, blame yourselves for not building a better system that would educate and protect both parties from making dumb life decisions.
I've done my bit, I tried to advocate for a better policy, what else do you want me to do?
If people has listened that girl wouldn't be laying there burned to a crisp and you fools arguing "He had no right"
Don't blame me for the governments poorly conceived policies.

Armchair Critic,

If you really are interested in the causes of domestic violence (which are quite complex), then how about you read up on what the research actually has to say about it, rather than simply reading news articles and then coming to your own naïve conclusions, based on incomplete data? (For example, educating both parties before they enter a relationship ain't gonna do squat for so long as there is poverty.)

You can start here:

Intimate partner violence: causes and prevention (http://goo.gl/v1bB9r)
Emerging Strategies in the Prevention of Domestic Violence (http://goo.gl/9dhaiD)
Domestic Violence at the Intersections of Race, Class, and Gender (http://goo.gl/IqB8dA)
Research on Domestic Violence in the 1990s: Making Distinctions (http://goo.gl/8RT0IV)
WHO Multi-country Study on Women’s Health and Domestic Violence against Women (http://goo.gl/ZUiicL)

There’s tens of thousands more, if you’re genuinely interested, they’re just the first ones I found which weren’t pay-walled.

Banjo, "Like most Aussies I was raised to respect our diggers that fought for us and am proud to honour their bravery and the hardships they endured.
However because the offensive comments on Anzac day were made by a woman it reminded me of the massacre of 22 Australian nurses on Bangka island during WW11...
With the offensive comments made by a woman, I cannot help but think about these brave and caring nurses that died so tragically".

Banjo, I am surprised that so far no-one has risen to the occasion to empathise with you and to share your compassion for the victims and for any surviving relatives and friends.

But of course those feelings were again laid raw as ANZAC Day approached and when we attended the Service.

My extended family on both sides lost so many in both world wars. While the greatest majority who suffered injury or death (usually the latter) were men, there were women who served and suffered. Or were at home managing the farm by themselves and other family members through farm accidents while supporting the war effort. Even now we have occasion, as more move to care or have died, to sort through the small, precious memorabilia. Some day some relative will do the same for us.

Can you or anyone else post the link to that documentary on the nurses made by the ABC?

Hi Leo,

This one might be a good start:

https://www.abccommercial.com/librarysales/program/vivian-bullwinkel-australian-heroine

Tribal/parochial/ethnocentric societies don't seem to have a very strong sense of good and bad, right and wrong. But they do have a very strong sense of 'honour' and 'shame'. I'm intrigued to know if this applied to the war-time Japanese.

Cheers,

Joe

Bloody hell you right whingers leave me flabbergasted sometimes.

The absolute worse that could be said about Ms Abel-Magied's comments was that they were politically incorrect and therefore offended some people.

All this bleating from you lot about being against political correctness and wanting the right to offend, but as soon as someone who isn't of your gender or colour or religion says something that gets up your nose then you scream blue murder. 'Deport her', 'hurt her', 'stone her'. Yup that's right, female, brown-skinned and Muslim. Three strikes.

Ms Abel-Magied is a young Australian. What she said did not denigrate anyone, did not incite hatred towards others, did not demean nor debase. Compare her words to much of the vileness being seen on this thread and rank hypocrisy doesn't even start to cover it.

I would much prefer to concentrate on the occasion though I will admit to finding Remembrance Day more significant for me now than ANZAC Day. To me younger generations have appropriated ANZAC Day and are weaving their own narrative around it. That is their right and I am loathed to criticise it. My father served in the RAN and I'm not sure he would have approved as he always felt pretty uneasy about jingoistic displays, especially by Yanks.

We found out this year that one of my mother's uncles Jack was badly tortured before being beheaded by the Japanese. It caused her real distress as she had been lead to believe his death had been relatively quick.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/they-dont-make-em-like-that-any-more-20161222-gth11m.html

It was the words of his brother Ben (who passed away this year) that struck a deep note with the family. He was carrying a dying soldier on his shoulders while being marched between work camps in the Burmese jungle;

"He told me to stop and have a break. I said, 'If I put you down, cock, I'll never be able to pick you up again.' "

It is remembering these brave men and women where our attention should lie not serving up hypocritical confected outrage.