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HIV Why isn't the message getting through on anal sex?
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Posted by leoj, Saturday, 8 April 2017 9:54:56 AM
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//The human body was never designed.//
Fixed. Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 8 April 2017 9:58:04 AM
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AJ, regardless of your reluctance to face well documented facts, multiple studies and figures from all over the world unequivocally prove that rates of all std's, including HIV and AIDS, are far higher amongst the gay and bisexual community than the heterosexual.
As initially quoted, something like 74% of all new cases of HIV occur in gay and bi men whilst the incidence of syphyllis, gonorrhea and chlamydia have reached such high levels in that demographic some experts are calling it an epidemic. The proportion would be even higher except for the fact that more women are now engaging in anal sex which puts them at the same risk as gay men. As I so explicitly explained earlier, there is a biological reason for this, one that in my opinion is not advertised nearly strongly enough, and certainly, according to my grandchildren, something that was never discussed during health education at school. Unfortunately I can't see that omission being addressed properly in the near future due to the angry dismissal of any discussion that even remotely seems to be anti gay Posted by Big Nana, Saturday, 8 April 2017 11:00:13 AM
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From the very beginning of this discussion my emphasis
has been on the importance of education and the role it plays, the crucial role, in the fight against HIV and AIDS. The links were chosen for that specific purpose to have an open and mature discussion that dealt with HIV in Australia, the statistics involved, the often misunderstood differences between HIV and AIDS, how the diseases are spread, and most importantly, the consequences of heterosexual anal sex for women, and so on. I felt it important to have these things open to discussion - because these topics have often been regarded as being taboo. It now appears that we are finally beginning to get somewhere. Hopefully this trend will continue. Here is another link on the subject: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/citykat/getting-to-the-bottom-of-the-last-great-taboo-20121011-27ff7.html Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 8 April 2017 11:04:42 AM
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Big Nana,
At what point have I expressed a desire to avoid facing that? <<… regardless of your reluctance to face well documented facts, multiple studies and figures from all over the world unequivocally prove that rates of all std's, including HIV and AIDS, are far higher amongst the gay and bisexual community than the heterosexual.>> That’s common knowledge. At least, it was when I was in school, and we didn’t have internet access then, nor was anal sex mentioned in the sex education syllabus. Come to think of it, I don't know how I found out that anal sex posed a greater risk of transmitting STDs than vaginal or oral sex. What I do know is that I knew about that long before I was old enough to be doing any of it. That being said, I find it awfully strange that none of your granddaughters or their friends knew about the increased risk that anal sex poses. Kids can learn a lot in the school yard, outside the official syllabus. <<Unfortunately I can't see that omission being addressed properly in the near future due to the angry dismissal of any discussion that even remotely seems to be anti gay.>> If it’s not being discussed nowadays (for whatever reason), then that’s a problem that needs to be addressed. However, I will still speak out against those who use the unfortunately stroke of bad luck - that is the connection between anal sex, HIV, and gay men - to make gay people sound like unnatural, filthy, disease-carrying vermin. After all, if we weren’t all such a vicious pack of bigots when it came to sexuality, then perhaps we wouldn’t have some insisting that certain topics not be discussed out of fear of inciting bigotry. If that’s what’s actually happening, that is. After all, it was never discussed when I was in school either. Posted by AJ Philips, Saturday, 8 April 2017 12:50:19 PM
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//something that was never discussed during health education at school.//
It was covered in my health syllabus (NSW state school). Maybe your grandkids just went to school in the wrong state? Or the wrong school system? I shudder to think what might pass for sex education in some private religious institutions: 'Sex is bad, kids. Don't do it at all unless you're married, and even then only do it missionary with the lights off and definitely don't enjoy it, that's sinful. And if you masturbate you'll go blind. Right, that's got heterosexual sex covered - now we can devote the rest of the period to explaining why god hates fags.' Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 8 April 2017 1:11:40 PM
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Obviously to the political soldiers of the socialist 'whatever' factions and career feminists who are out for themselves, playing politics must come before any concern about the continuing additions to the number of blood borne virus, including HIV/AIDS, cases.
The ends justify the means or so it seems and girls and young women are necessary collateral damage. Easily deniable - hey, there is eduction, OK? Yes, but what education might that be? Secondly, what might be inhibiting, or even counteracting, the effectiveness of those guvvy brochures and other bumpf?
But above all, since government obviously does not have the answer to preventing the spread of serious blood borne STIs, specifically what practical, reliable and robust controls/steps/decisions are available to women to protect themselves and their children? -Obviously, the answer must come from the home.