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Musk's Farm; A one day wonder ?

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Yes doog they should divert the gas from export.
They should also divert coal from export until we have built the next energy regime.
Sarah Hansen Young was on there illustrating how much she does not
know about electricity and systems. Why can't someone tell her to
shut up and stop making a fool of herself.

It is not common knowledge that peak world coal occurred last year.
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 2:45:11 PM
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Here's where plenty of federal money for SA comes from:

https://arena.gov.au/media/arena-and-cefc-support-solutions-for-certainty-of-energy-supply-including-flexible-capacity-and-large-scale-energy-storage/

SA carries on with its grande failed experiment at the expense of the rest of us.

There's no end to subsidization of renewables, from the RET through to FiTs, solar rebates, grid modification and beyond. The true cost is well camouflaged and now includes the payment of royalties to farmers for gas produced from their land, and, building an emergency gas turbine with public money.

The true cost of renewables, when fully teased out, is monstrous already and will become more so.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 3:31:07 PM
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Let’s get one thing clear about the South Australian government’s energy response. It’s not a bold plan as it’s been described. It’s a late plan that shuts the gate after the horse has well and truly bolted.

South Australia, in pursuing an ideological agenda to promote renewables, allowed its baseload power stocks to fall to a level that required it to rely on other states through power interconnectors.

This has proven to be a disastrous strategy as the blackouts that have plagued the state attest.

The government has essentially admitted this by opting to build a gas-fired baseload power station to underpin the state’s energy security.

But this should have been done before the closure of the Northern Power Station which presaged the energy instability that has since plagued the state.

One thing that continues to work well is the Labor spin machine. Bill Shorten congratulated the South Australian government for “leading’’ on energy security. “They are making sure there that South Australians don’t have to wait for the federal government to get their act together and SA is leading,’’ Shorten said this morning. What nonsense.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 6:33:54 PM
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As far as I'm aware, the Federal Government, and therefore taxpayers, will not be involved in cost.I don't know whether or not there is a shortage of gas elsewhere, but there are apparently 9 new locations available in SA. And, they are already whining in the SE of the state where it will happen.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 7:34:19 PM
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If an independent wants to do something for the state is that not worth any risk as you foresee.
Posted by doog, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 10:10:03 PM
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It is extraordinary how ignorant are some of the commentators that you
see on radio & television.
A comment that you often hear is that we can use gas until we get
alternative energy generation available that will generate no CO2.
No one seems to turn around and say "Oh yes, just what that might be ?"

If you say Nuclear ?
They are likely to vomit all over you with shock !
Frankly, only thermal solar has any hope, except it has failed for
economic reasons. There is an uproar over electricity rates now let
alone pushing them up even further. Ocean systems has failed because
of high maintenance costs, which is not surprising as anything to do
with marine environments is always expensive.

No one seems to look into ERoEI and ask what these various systems
actually achieve. The curve of ERoEI indicates that anything under 7
is useless and it is well known that solar is somewhere around that
figure.
Batteries-- GAWD
Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 10:23:04 PM
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