Loudmouth - Why do you think they had to go to a court to get permission?

Fisa courts

Also Obama signed at least 5 Executive orders, the contents of which were never revealed very few people know what they involve, so maybe they don't need permission for certain acts.

Hi Phillip,

Ah, I get it: this is so secret and underhand that there is no evidence of it all, it's all been covered up ? Devilishly cunning.

The problem with no proof is that there is no proof. Cunning and devious, they all may be, but you may have nothing to back up this gigantic assertion.

Quote "nothing to back up this gigantic assertion." That is the beauty of it I can't prove it BUT you can't disprove it.

Here's another interesting take on why trumps latest
accusation could backfire:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-trumps-latest-obama-accusation-could-backfire

Hi Phillip,

I don't have to. As Christopher Hitchens said, 'He who asserts must prove'. Or as the romans put it, 'Asseritur gratis, negatur gratis' - what is asserted without proof can be ignored without the need for evidence.'

But thanks for demonstrating my original points :)

Cheers,

Joe

I think politician who not tell the truth is very bad because all the people should believe them to speak truth about very important things, that effect all the people.

If we cannot believe them, who can the people believe. They are man and woman of God because they are called Ministers, and Ministers must not tell any lies at all, am I wrong perhaps to trust them if I cant trust them who do I believe about important things in this country?