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Respect for the Court

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Hutt River declared war on Australia which then meant it became a sovereign state. It issued 10000 $20 coins and has 14000 citizens mainly overseas, with 40000 tourists also largely from overseas.

"In April 2016, the Principality of Hutt River finally received an official nod from Australia’s head of state, Queen Elizabeth II. Prince Leonard, the sovereign of Hutt River, received a letter with the Queen’s good wishes on the anniversary of the Principality seceding from Australia 46 years ago, on April 21, 1970. It reads in part: “I am to convey Her Majesty’s good wishes to you....the forty-sixth anniversary of the Principality of Hutt River.”
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This puts the country in the same status as the Principality of Wales and of Monaco, Liechtenstein , Asturias and the co-principality of Andorra.

"In January 2017, Prince Leonard announced that, after ruling for 45 years, he would be stepping down as prince, to be succeeded by his youngest son, Prince Graeme."
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The legal enforcement by judges of their own tradition of standing in court is a variety of the Adolf Hitler salute . The nazi salute became compulsory for civilians with the "Heil Hitler" while the army retained the military salute. " In football, the England football team bowed to pressure from the British foreign office and performed the ( nazi) salute during a friendly match on 14 May 1938."
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 7:23:00 AM
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Does the Hutt River passport allow its holders to repackage neglected and abused children as 'Stolen' to shelve the blame onto others?

Does Hutt River enjoy Gesture Politics while its children are forgotten?

As you say NNN. it is all about dollars. Sure better than a job though, you'd say.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 8:38:15 AM
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Meanwhile, somewhere not in the diversionary Hutt River,

"Aboriginal mothers in WA jails discuss domestic violence in lives, as study finds 'culture of fighting'
By Nicolas Perpitch
Updated 36 minutes ago

Aboriginal mothers 17 times more likely to die from homicide

"There was no way I was going to stand back and let a man flog me, so I gave just as much as he tried to give."

Those were the words of Leonie, the pseudonym for one of 84 Aboriginal mothers in West Australian jails who were interviewed for a new report on the role of intergenerational violence in their lives.

Almost 90 per cent of the women reported experiencing violence in relationships with their partners and families, and 54 per cent admitted using violence against others.

But they said they would often not report family violence to the authorities for fear the Department of Child Protection (DCP) would remove their children.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-15/aboriginal-mothers-in-wa-jails-talk-about-violence-in-lives/8270166
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 8:48:21 AM
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Dear nicknamenick and Yuyutsu,

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Many thanks for those articles of law which I read with interest and saved for future reference.

Though the “Courts Legislation Amendment (Disrespectful Behaviour) Bill 2016” that nicknamenick posted relates specifically to New South Wales and the “Births, Deaths and Marriages Registration Act 1996” that Yuyutsu posted relates specifically to South Australia, no doubt the other Australian states and territories have similar legislation. Many other countries probably do as well.

However, Yuyutsu wrote :

« ... Australia, where the option to opt-out from society is absent »

According to the OED, the term “opt-out” means “to choose not to participate in something”. Therefore, to “opt-out” of society, one has to either cease being a member of that society, or not become a member of it in the first place – not just break the law or treat it with contempt.

The law applies to all members of society. It does not apply to non-members. Anybody who lives within society, for any length of time - even temporarily - are deemed to be members and subject to the laws.

Not respecting the law is one thing, but “opting-out” of society is another. Failing to respect a red light when driving a car is, by no stretch of the imagination, “opting-out” of society. No more than a rugby player is deemed to “opt-out” of the team if he does not respect the rules of the game. In both instances, sanctions are applied.

I found no evidence in the laws you indicate to support Yuyutsu’s claim that the option to “opt-out” from society is absent in Australia.

I see nothing to prevent anybody, who so wishes, to cease participating in Australian society and living in total seclusion as a hermit, without leaving the country, or, failing that, migrating to some other country of his or her own choice.

But I welcome any evidence you might be kind enough to indicate to the contrary.

Allow me simply to add that I consider that the value of a democracy depends, inter alia, on how it treats its minorities.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 9:23:35 AM
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"I consider that the value of a democracy depends, inter alia, on how it treats its minorities"

How the minority treats one another too, especially its vulnerable members.

Who wants a return to the dark days of the black curtain that descended after that overbearing idealist Whitlam enabled self-management for Aborigines?

The Australian society can never stand aside again and allow the self-imposed black apartheid that allowed the abuses of women and children to occur and without media reporting.
Posted by leoj, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 9:41:22 AM
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Philips:

If you are not doing anything wrong then there is no need to be so concerned about whether you need to put up or shut up or whether or not you are a coward. That is all you need to know. Further information or clarification just feeds your paranoia.

"phanto,

There is no need for you to tell Foxy that there is no need to tell you what there is no need to do, either. That’s also patronising."

It's patronising Foxy to defend her unless you think she is incapable of defending herself.
Posted by phanto, Wednesday, 15 February 2017 10:14:32 AM
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