Foxy,

I will stick with the polling experts that still say that going negative works.

"His election tactics were beyond unethical and bordering on criminal,"

What rubbish, only a hard nosed conservative would say and believe that. I assume you are referring to the Labor 'Medicare' campaign of pointing out the Coalitions plans of destruction for our popular universal health scheme. A scheme that has irked the conservatives ever since the day they opposed its introduction by the hated Whitlam Government in 1975. when did that attitude change, never it just got hidden in the closset. The very notion that we as as a people would come together to ensure every citizen received basic medical care, regardless of their means, is repulsive to the dyed in the wool, dog eat dog, conservative, as it smacks of the dreaded socialism.

The only thing that saves 'Medicare' from the conservatives knife is its popular acceptance by the vast majority of Australians, and that has never wavered since its introduction 40 years ago. Why don't the conservatives put their cards on the table,and show their true feeling about 'Medicare', for the people to judge at the next election.

Even the left-leaning ABC uses single inverted commas when referring to Shorten's and Labor's claim that the LNP planned to sell or privatise Medicare.

It was a lie. It worked and Shorten the consummate liar will keep it and other lies on foot.

ABC, "History lesson: A Medicare scare might not be fair, but it works"

Now along comes Paul1405 to show that no-one just no-one, not even Shorten, can tell bigger porkies than the Greens. But everyone already knew that.

Leo W, gee you remind me of previous strange poster onthebeach, maybe you are he, the only time I can recall the Conservatives ever being remotely socialistic, was when they conscripted as many young Australian kids as they could, and sent them off to die in their phony foreign war in Vietnam, When these war mongers want to protect their backers assets they become very socialistic. Or like The Donald do you have a set of alternate facts to present.

Paul1405,

You dropped the Mediscare subject real fast. The facts got in the road?

Shorten's and Labor's Mediscare is a lie that keeps on giving. Shorten puts Juliar to shame.

Maybe the ABC might render a service to its paying public and discover Bill Shorten's lies. Hope springs eternal. Not something that might happen on Tony Jones' Q&A though.

Dear Shadow Minister,

I don't understand quite frankly you cheering on
Malcolm Turnbull for his attacks on Bill Shorten.
But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. You equally
defended Tony Abbott's viciousness against Julia
Gillard and when she lost it and defended herself
in Parliament (she'd had enough by then) with
her famous speech - I don't recall you coming to
her defence. Yet here you are defending MT.
However, do what you want - the voters will decide
at the next election despite what anybody does.
And we shall then see if the old politics still work.