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Posted by doog, Monday, 23 January 2017 10:18:57 AM
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Dear ttbn,
You can judge a person by their actions. Donald Trump is being judged by his around the world and in America. Here is just one person's reaction taken from the Los Angeles Times (there's heaps more on the web): http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-ol-le-trump-inaugural-address-20170120-story.html "We have a man who has major conflicts of interest, refuses to release his tax returns, spews lies and hateful rhetoric, disdains the press, declares NATO to be obsolete, encourages other nations to develop nuclear weapons, promotes an agenda that will make the rich richer and the poor poorer, may destroy the rights of women and minorities, could bring our nation into conflict with major world powers (most frightening of all) and destroy all efforts to protect our environment from the ravages of climate change. The world is not celebrating today. Neither am I." The world agrees as do so many Americans. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 23 January 2017 11:56:15 AM
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Foxy,
There are no competitions here. All I can say is that, were I an American, I would be very pleased to have Trump as president. As an Australian, I am much more pleased with Trump's ideas than I was with Obama's. I hope Trump doesn't louse up America as much as Obama did. You do tend to judge politicians the same way you judge other people. I do not. There is a world of difference between politicians and us. You might be surprised then that I was very impressed by the way Obama left office; he did it with dignity and in a thoroughly gentlemanly way. I was particularly moved by the way he, on more than one occasion, he admonished his loonier supporters not to boo every time Trump's name was mentioned. Posted by ttbn, Monday, 23 January 2017 4:52:39 PM
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PS Foxy,
Can you tell me why anyone would want to see Trump's tax returns? Have other presidents been asked to pull out their tax returns? I think it's all sour grapes and poor 'losership' from people who were so sure that Trump could not win. I also believe that these poor losers do not believe in democracy when it doesn't work their way. I'm thankful that the Australian culture is different. Posted by ttbn, Monday, 23 January 2017 4:58:24 PM
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Dear ttbn,
Regarding President Trump's tax returns? There has to be a surety that there is no conflict of interests concerning his ever evolving global business affairs. Namely has he broken any law. How much tax does he pay, does he use tax havens? It seems that there is some difficulty getting around Trump's business conglomerates which are a patchwork of "artful" deals, strategy changes, bankruptcies, carefully laid plans, et cetera. He's said himself that as far as business is concerned - "I play it very loose..." In the USA history suggests that institutions tend to dominate personalities, Trump will not be the exception. He will undoubtedly face the same institutional constraints as any other president - that of Congress and the Courts. The success of other strong-willed presidents has ultimately been due to the degree to which they were politically restrained. For example Lyndon B. Johnson was praised for his political skill, but he gained legislative victories mainly through strong partisan support in Congress while Richard Nixon's opposition from Congress was ultimately his undoing. We'll have to wait and see what happens with President Trump. He got in on promises that may not work - like less immigration and a new protectionism (this goes against the Constitution and American values). Plus more infrastructure spending (where's the money going to come from?). Interesting times ahead. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 11:32:48 AM
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Ahhh Foxy & others,
Like virtually all of us Gareth Evens was schooled in geography with Mercadors projection on out school walls. Therefore we have no idea of the shape of the world. At least those of us schooled in radio learnt very quickly about Great Circle paths and to realise that Peking is much closer to Berlin than it is to Australia. So why are the Europeans not told that they are part of Asia ? After all they live on the same block ! Paris is closer to Asia than Brisbane is to Melbourne ! Then another thing a degree of latitude is bigger in the northern hemisphere than it is in the Sothern henispher on Mercadors projection. Then most do not realise that Indonesia, the Phillipines and New Guinea are not in Asia. So our Foreign Minister who negotiated with other countries did not even know where Australia was located. Posted by Bazz, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 1:33:11 PM
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Trump said a lot and so did Abbott, and he turned out to be a fraud.
I believe in the will of the people, and if that does not work out then you jump up and down.
Trump may be good or he may be idiotic by his own nature.
This TTbn bloke can pick a winner before one is even born. Obama could not persuade any support for gun laws. Trump may only get what they allow him also.