With the cancellation of some Anzac marches, you would have to say that the terrorists and extremists are slowly getting their way here in Oz.

Apart from the fact that it is a disgrace that our governments refuse to provide funding for the additional security needed, preferring to waste money on unethical personal travel, as the latest example, it just goes to show how stupid we have been as a nation to allow this garbage into our once peace loving nation.

Shame on all officials who have supported the importation of extremists and terrorists into our nation as it is rather ironic to think the ones we were going to honour, were those who fought for the very freedoms we have slowly deprived ourselves of.

What a politically correct hamstrung nation we have become.

Is it really that bad, mate? Are you sure that you are not looking for really bad stuff that isn't actually there? I've always made it clear what I think of Muslims, multiculturalism, the loony Left, gutless politicians and political correctness. I take careful note of what's going on. But I have never seen any indication that 'terrorists' are winning in Australia. Perhaps I am insulated by the Great Dividing Range too much? In SA there are only 1.7 million of us, but we have same sort of people here, in proportion. We don't have the trouble and strife you Eastern Staters seem to be having all the time. The same applies to WA,and the NT. Sure that you are not blaming the wrong people over your way?

Butch, to be brutally honest your assertion that we were at some point in history a "peace loving nation" defies the facts and is a load of rubbish. Truthfully Australia has a long history of sticking its nose into other peoples wars, and very few of them have had much to do with freedom, ours or there's.

From 1901;

South African War (Boer War), 1899–1902
China (Boxer Rebellion), 1900–01
First World War, 1914–18
Second World War, 1939–45
Occupation of Japan, 1946–51
Korean War, 1950–53
Malayan Emergency, 1950–60
Indonesian Confrontation, 1963–66
Vietnam War, 1962–75
First Gulf War, 1990–91
Peacekeeping, 1947 to present

You keep believing it, if it makes you feel good.

Dear rehctub,

Firstly the Anzac marches will go ahead. The government
and the local councils are sharing the costs.
Secondly extremists (many born here) are a small
minority of our population. We do have a legal framework
to deal with them and now even stronger safety measures
are being taken. The reality is that most people in this
country do get on with each other. Extremists winning?
I don't think so, neither do my neighbours. As a matter
of fact I don't know any "extremists," do you?
Don't believe everything that's put out by the main
stream media. They deal with sensationalistic news that
sells their papers, not reality.

There are too many people looking for something 'bad' these days. Most of the crap that happens in Australia and the world doesn't touch us. We all have a tendency to take things too personally. I mean, do we really need 'security' so that a few people can march on Anzac Day? Is there really a threat to our way of life from anything or anyone, except for a few single events perpetrated by some nutter, easily dealt with by everyday, general duties plods. Hey, we even turned the census debacle into an international conspiracy, when it was just down to our usual political incompetence and lack of technical savvy. Most of us still cabable of filling in a form and posting it had no trouble with the census, and let the root of the problem - government - worry about the damage,if there is any.

Myself - I have decided that I DO NOT live in a 'multicultural society' as the PC naggers say I do. I see the 'other' vaguely and rarely, particularly in the form of an Indian taxi driver (generally more polite and helpful than the ones I used to travel with) but, generally, my life hasn't changed one bit.

To be honest, I was girding my loins for arguments about the 'alternative' lamb add for Australia Day. But, when I saw it on TV, I laughed. My first thought was of a pack of unregistered, mongrel dogs, off-leash on a beach, barking "aren't we all boat people?". These people are not hurting me by making morons of themselves. Thank God I don't live in Sydney. End of story. My one new year resolution is to try not to get knotted up by anything, real or imagined, that has no effect on me whatsoever.

Hi Foxy, as you always do, you tell it how it is, not some half baked nonsense that others wish to promote.

Butch said "Shame on all officials who have supported the importation of extremists and terrorists into our nation"

I honestly know of no such officials of any moderate political persuasion, Labor, Liberal, Greens, or public servants etc who have done any such thing. No person with authority has ever countenanced bring extremists and terrorists into Australia.

Yes they are, but they're just a tool of the globalist.

Exactly what are you wishing to celebrate? You really need to put the ANZACS in the context of the attrocities being committed inside Australia against the Original People.

Not to mention the baby/child stealing ..

The military have maintained and enabled these historical abuses.

..

As for Paul's uninformed comment that no one has knowingly imported extremists into this country I'd have to come down on rehtub's side on that one.

What you are dealing with Islam is a massive singular family unit. So, for example, when the Israelis last attacked Gaza on mass, Indonesian Muslims stood up on mass and asked whether or not they should go to help their "family."

So, if Australia has been involved in the persecution of any Muslims (as we have from their perspective) then you can rest assured that your enemies are great in number, notwithstanding the fact that only a few of them are active at any one time.

Understanding that about Muslims it naturally follows to import a lot of them on mass is to heighten the risk that some of those enemies will take the opportunity to get even.

and here we are ..

What you really need to do, is put aside your duplicity, lies and greed, and acknowledge the role that you have played in wrongs committed and go all out to at least attempt to make good, in a wholly unconditional way even though some will spit on you for it.

I can already hear the screams of denial and outrage, but .. the beauty of the situation is, is that the more you lie, the more you deny, the more you will be hated, despised and attacked. And there are more than a few of you who deserve no less.

So to be honest, if the military don't get their parades and the children of this nation are no longer taught bold faced and shameless lies about our past and present, then surely that is only a good thing?

You want to hold an Anzac Day march; you want to demonstrate for or against something? You go to your local council, get a permit. You might have to check with the police for the sake of traffic control. That's what you've always done in Australia; that's what you can still do in Australia. Stop whinging and imagining that we have been taken over by Daleks.

I think Foxy among others missed Rechub's point.
By winning he meant it has become politically incorrect to draw
attention to many of the overseas incidents let alone the activity of
local Islamists like the Abtit Habier, or however you spell it.
They are openly demanding Sharia Law and courts.

Foxy, to say that the extremists are a small minority is to ignore
the overseas experience.
You said;
Don't believe everything that's put out by the main
stream media. They deal with sensationalistic news that
sells their papers, not reality.
end quote;
What you do not seem to understand is the mainstream media is not
feeding us sensationalism, they are not feeding us anything and we are
being treated like mushrooms.
In Melbourne that repeat raid on a jewellers was only reported as
being black Somalies on one channel. They are known as the Ajax gang.
The media do not report ANY of the horrific rapes and murders that
are being committed in Europe by moslem immigrant gangs.
German police have reported that, I think it was 70% of rapes are by
immigrant gangs. Their population is 5% of total.
They are knocking school girls off their bikes on the way to/from school.
They claim the Koran permits it as they are not moslems.
Do I need to remind you of Bil Al & his gang of rapists ?
Another hidden from our media is Rotherham in the UK.
1400 girls in that town raped & sex traded around the area.
The police knew and suppressed it because it would have been racist
and they would have been attacked as racists.

There are problems with swimming pools, with pools setting aside pools
for girls. Just what the Islamists demand.
They made that demand in Melbourne and the council complied.
That is what Rechub meant by winning.

"The media do not report ANY of the horrific rapes and murders that
are being committed in Europe by moslem immigrant gangs."

Really? So how do you know about them?

//Really? So how do you know about them?//

Judging by the typical content of Bazz's posts, I would say that he probably gets his information from that most reliable of sources: Some Bloke Down the Pub. Or possibly in this day and age, Some Bloke on the Internet. As long as Some Bloke's 'facts' agree with people's personal biases, they will rarely stop to question the veracity of Some Bloke's information, or what sources he relies on for that information.

Billyd and Toni Lavis,

The censorship of migrant crimes in Europe is commonly discussed on the independent media.
We know this because the when the facts aren't reported on by the corporate media in that country the stories then find their way to the independent media which does report on them.
I've heard there are laws now that prevent publishing migrant crimes in either Germany or the EU (can't remember which exactly).
I tried looking up links to justify this claim but I can't find mention of this so-called law at this point; you can either take my word for it, or not, or do some research and find out for yourself.

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/europes-amazing-vanishing-act

http://www.infowars.com/german-police-covering-up-rapes-so-as-not-to-legitimize-critics-of-mass-migration/

http://www.infowars.com/mark-zuckerberg-caught-on-hot-mic-saying-facebook-will-censor-anti-migrant-posts/

http://freebeacon.com/culture/facebook-will-now-censor-fake-news/

http://www.infowars.com/ex-stasi-agent-hired-to-censor-xenophobic-facebook-posts/

Long before the media push against 'fake news' late last year (as evidenced by my links) there was a need by globalists to do something to combat the spread of right-wing nationalist views in western nations.
They had a need for censorship of news critical of immigration and other globalist agendas.
They can't just come out and censor news on such of massive level, they need a crisis to justify their changes, and they also need to 'sell' the idea to 'useful idiots'.
So they say they need to censor 'hate speech' or speech that might 'incite hatred or violence'.
Now they have a basis to which they can label and discredit news organisations or websites critical of their agendas and then persecute them on a seemingly reasonable basis.
It's purpose however in not reducing 'incitement to hatred' its true purpose is censorship of views critical of their globalist agendas.

//The censorship of migrant crimes in Europe is commonly discussed on the independent media.//

See what I mean, BillyD? AC gets his info from Some Bloke on the Internet.

You may have noticed that 60% of his links were to the website of this man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5KTiAcTEyc

Because we all know how reliable people clearly suffering from mental illness with full blown hallucinations are. I feel sorry for the poor guy, and I hope he's able to get the help he needs.

But because Some Bloke's 'facts' agree with AC's personal biases, he never bothers to question if they are indeed facts, or just the ramblings of a fevered imagination.

Dream on, the march that was to be cancelled was at Katoomba (not sure of the spelling) in the Blue mountains very close to the army baracks.

My problem is our useless policitcally correct government can see fit to charter a flight for relatives of illigals killed at sea, these passangers themselves being illegal arrivals, yet they cant fund security for an iconic march like Anzac day.

As for your comments on indiginous, just thank your lucky stars the majority white strong army fended off the Japs at Darwin, because what happened to them from within was like a holiday camp compared to what the Japs would have done had they succeded with their invation.

What Armchair says is basically correct.
There is no law in most European countries applying censorship as such
but the police come under heavy criticism if they say a crime was
committed by a group of moslem immigrants. They can have their own
superiors come down on them for racism.
That is what happened in the case of Rotherham.

There are also problems with the "Hate Speach" legislation in various countries.
You can be prosecuted for saying moslems are a problem.
Perhaps you never heard of the Geert Wilders case.
He is leader of the 2nd largest party in Holland.
At a political rally he asked the rhetorical question;
"Do you want more or less Moroccans ?" "Less, less, less from the crowd.".

He was prosecuted for that and found guilty.
Penalty, as far as I know reserved to a later date.
I suggest that you search "Blondes Police Norway Sweden" I have not
searched on that search term so I am not certain it will find the
police recommendations. Search Sweden police demonstrations.
The police are resigning because of lack of backup from their senior officers.
Search police and Malmo.
Then tell me I am imagining it.

If you look it goes on & on but you never hear about it here.

Paul,

Second World War, 1939–45 [I imagine that there would be no Greens had we lost]
Occupation of Japan, 1946–51 [wasn't a war and there were very friendly relations with the locals++++++]
Korean War, 1950–53 [ definitely freedom after the North Koreans were put back from whence they had started, are you a fan of the clown that runs North Korea?]
Malayan Emergency, 1950–60 [ definite freedom although Lee Rhiannon's mates in the Communist Party didn't like it.]
Indonesian Confrontation, 1963–66 [you've gotta be jokin']
Vietnam War, 1962–75
[disaster]
First Gulf War, 1990–91 [ditto]
Peacekeeping, 1947 to present [ all in all freedom wins this one particularly East Timor]

Foxy, your admission that stronger measures are being taken to protect societies from extremists and terrorists pretty much backs my claim that we are losing the battle and the extremists are actually winning.

As for extremists being a small minority says nothing as there are far more today than there were twenty years ago, and that's a problem.

The other concern is what percentage of that very small minority make up our total crime and incarceration rates because for example, if they make up 0.1% of the population, yet represent more than 0.1% of crims, then you have a problem.

You see Islam is a movement, and unlike us who have a life span, it doesn't.

The real problem will arrive one day, 5, 10, 20, even 50 years from now when these so called 'moderate Muslims' throughout the world are forced to choose between their country of residence, or their religious leader. That's when the sh1t will hit the fan. People like you make that transition easier, while putting the lives of innocent people at ever increasing risk in their day to day lives, lives that when I was a kid were in no danger what so ever. These are not the type of people we want populating our countries and for me, Muslim immigration should be stopped. I won't say before it's too late, because I believe it's already too late. It is now just a matter of time before they are forced to choose. Hopefully not in my lifetime.

rehctub,

"....like a holiday camp compared to what the Japs would have done had they succeded with their invation."

Just a small point, the Japanese never intended to invade Australia, this is one of the great furphies of WWII

So what are you saying Is Mise, did they take a wrong turn?

Actually there was a dispute in the Japanese High Command about whether
they should invade Australia.
Some saw the resources and space and others saw the space and realised
that they could never efficiently occupy even part of such a large land.
Those that opposed invasion won, and it was off the agenda.
I did read about just who opposed, I think it may have been the Navy.

Posted by rehctub, Monday, 16 January 2017 7:24:36 AM

" ... As for your comments on indiginous, just thank your lucky stars the majority white strong army fended off the Japs at Darwin, because what happened to them from within was like a holiday camp compared to what the Japs would have done had they succeded with their invation. .. "

Yes, I understand well the depravities of the Japs mate. I seem to recall that in one instance after they landed they were initially met by a delegation of "Original Australians" and they demanded "comfort women" straight off the bat leading the Original people to quickly form the view that the best thing to be done would be to "kill 'em."

And many of them did fight to defend these shores and how were they treated?? Some of them returned from the wars only to find their children stolen, no pension, no f_ck all .. all at the hands of filthy white trash.

and you want to celebrate that?