Robert
I am familiar with depression, ive lived through it myself, due
to illness.
I understand the overwhelming affect it has on someones ability to
cope or to see any hope or even to find the strenght to even get up
in the day time.

However there is medical counselling and medication for depression.
And you can learn ways to deal with it.
The decision to end their life is still their own decision. Being murdered
when you dont wish to die is a different matter. The life of someones daughter
and sister is also taken.

The male partner has no right to do that. Its stepping over a line.
Anyway,why do males always choose violence to solve their problems
Suicide or murder?

Hey CHERFUL,
I don't think the other blokes here are condoning the mistreatment of women.
I think RObert is just trying to say it's not such a one-sided or straightforward issue than which it is portrayed, and I'd agree with him.
My first point was more about indoctrination of kids from a feminist 'hate and blame men for everything' viewpoint, rather than a more broader look at the issue.

I'd like to say that it's always been my opinion that 'Men lash out when they feel trapped or pushed into a corner'.

So whilst I'm not actually condoning anyone using the 'bully' mentality; I will say than men and women can both play a part in the downward spiral of some relationships and the end result can sometimes be one person feeling trapped or pushed into a corner.

And two people may be responsible for that, not necessarily one.

I hope you understand what I mean and not in any way think I'm condoning violence towards women, because I'm not.

In the government report on family homicide I linked to earlier it points out that in the period 2002–03 to 2011–12 there were Males killed by intimate partners and 488 females. 503 of the offenders were male and 151 female. Clearly women are killed by male intimate partners in situations considered to be homicide far more often than the reverse.

I've so far not found anything looking like an independent study into intimate partner killings in Australia not considered as homicide. Some of the material I have seen in the past gives me the impression that if a female kills a partner and claims self defence there is a rush to believe it but I can't currently tell what impact that has on the numbers.

So significantly more women die in incidents fitting the term domestic homicide but not so many as to justify the continual portrayal of domestic homicide only in terms of something men do to women any more than we describe alcohol abuse or some specific crimes in relation to only one group which might be overrepresented compared to other groups.

R0bert

Armchair Critic

I do agree that it is a complex problem and that the ridiculing and making men look stupid in Television adds has gone too far.

It is damaging to the self-esteem of young boys.
And the school system is geared towards the female way
of learning, particularly with a shortage of male teachers as role
models.

I read somewhere that men tend to default to physical action when they get really upset.
Probably because in the evolutionary sense they are territorial defenders

Cherful
But you're in favour of violence remember?

Your entire political ideology is based on threatening the entire population with prison and rape to force them to obey your opinions.

There is no such thing as a "right" to force people to pretend that men and women are equal or the same when it's factually untrue, to pretend to value them the same when they don't and there's no reason why they should, to pretend that women don't have babies, nor to pay for women's sexual and reproductive choices.

Also, it is nonsense that women were "forced" to have children. Rape was at all times illegal and it is dishonest to say that.