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Posted by ttbn, Friday, 14 October 2016 9:44:37 AM
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School education distraction using irrelevant to real life, imposing pointless learning to punish the learning experience. Once students leave schools... teenagers won't want to learn anything that's not simple to understand.
Mental Health awareness week. Awareness of social problem issues does not mean governments are wanting to fix problems. I accuse governments of causing mental illness problems... arguments below. Very worth while reading website page below: http://www.psychforums.com/living-with-mental-illness/topic187100.html#p1938420 steve101. Posted by steve101, Friday, 14 October 2016 1:11:00 PM
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Andrews has obviously never watched the abc or visited a school. What a pathetic message to send to boys. The more we give into these emasculated males and feminist the more pathetic we become as a society.
Posted by runner, Friday, 14 October 2016 5:15:53 PM
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Why not just get the boys to wear dresses? Might as well... not.
This is the work of some weird ugly feminist for sure. Male discrimination. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxDuI6o4aD4 Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 16 October 2016 5:42:10 PM
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ttbn,steve101,runner, armchair critic.
8 women die a month in this country at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends. women were forced to have 6 to 10kids in this country before the 1940s Finally a women accompanied by a male Dr. faced a court of men to argue for the right to contraception. Now you boys hand over your wallets, next time you want to buy something I'll consider if its something I think you should spend money on ar not. Meanwhile Im going down the pub to have a beer and bet 40dollars on the horses. This is what life was like for women because they were sackded from their jobs and not allowed to work once they got married. Those were the rules of society back in the 1950's. Also women werent allowed to vote the same as the black people werent allowed to vote. It was the male way of controlling women. Any wonder women said, enough! My 83year old Aunt had 6children back in those days, Her husband would come home drunk at all hours of the night and demand she cook his tea. He would wake all the kids up. Ive heard a lot of these stories over the years when talking to different women in social groups. The way muslim women are treated, and the fact that 1 in 3 African males admit to committing rape in one of the poorest overpopulated countries on earth., makes me really start to believe that most men are bastards. Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 16 October 2016 11:34:57 PM
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ttbn,steve101,runner, armchair critic.
8 women die a month in this country at the hands of their husbands or boyfriends. women were forced to have 6 to 10kids in this country before the 1940s Finally a women accompanied by a male Dr. faced a court of men to argue for the right to contraception. Now you boys hand over your wallets, next time you want to buy something I'll consider if its something I think you should spend money on ar not. Meanwhile Im going down the pub to have a beer and bet 40dollars on the horses. This is what life was like for women because they were sacked from their jobs and not allowed to work once they got married. Those were the rules of society back in the 1950's. Also women werent allowed to vote the same as the black people werent allowed to vote. It was the male way of controlling women. Any wonder women said, enough! My 83year old Aunt had 6children back in those days, Her husband would come home drunk at all hours of the night and demand she cook his tea. He would wake all the kids up. Ive heard a lot of these stories over the years when talking to different women in social groups. The way muslim women are treated, and the fact that 1 in 3 African males admit to committing rape in one of the poorest overpopulated countries on earth., makes me really start to believe that most men are bastards. Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 16 October 2016 11:35:52 PM
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Cherful,
8 women a month? I doubt that. Do you have figures/evidence that would prove me wrong? Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 October 2016 3:18:20 PM
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http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2015/s4215739.htm
Above is a link to the ABC 7.30 show, stating that 35women have been killed in the last 15weeks in Australia by domestic violence. There are also photos of all the dead women. Google it. There was another article that said 2women are killed every week. Dont you people watch the news. It was all over the news a couple of months ago with politicians saying the number of women killed by domestic violence was shocking and needed to be addressed. Wont hold my breath waiting for the politicians to really do anything though. Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 17 October 2016 8:44:13 PM
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A coverage of domestic/family homicide in Australia http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/current%20series/rip/21-40/rip38.html
What the media reports don't seem to mention is the men who are killed by intimate partners, nobody seems to really look at contributing factors. What role does the brutality and gender discrimination in our family law system play in intimate partner homicide? The highly gendered anti DV campaigns do little to stop domestic violence because they are in complete denial about around 1/2 of it. Rates of physical violence have been pretty well researched and when the research does not start out with filters to ignore violence by women against men consistently shows similar rates by men and women other than in some specific areas (eg when all hell breaks women are more likely to end up killed but I think male suicide rates should be taken into account in the types of harm done to men by women). I don't think there are credible numbers on the verbal/control variants but I'm absolutely certain thats not a one way flow of disrespect and abuse. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Monday, 17 October 2016 9:07:56 PM
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Not all were involved in domestic violence. There's no excuse for violence against anyone, including women, but they can't all be blamed on spouses and boyfriends. Males are also murdered by women. This is not so well reported, though. It would be good if none of it happened.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 17 October 2016 9:42:56 PM
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Robert,
The difference is that male suicides choose to kill themselves, women who are murdered arent given a choice. Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 4:50:45 PM
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CHERFUL a fairly heartless response.
Anybody who takes their own life other than to escape the worst of a terminal or severely debilitating illness is in a very dark place. Sometimes that dark place is entirely of their own choosing, at other times forced on them by a variety of circumstances where the factor of choice is not something they feel any control over and driven by circumstances other choices won't change. The choice issue is in some ways a lot like those people who stay with abusive partners, we all have/had an option to leave but for a variety of reasons that's not the choice many people in abusive relationships feel they can make. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 5:48:25 PM
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Robert
I am familiar with depression, ive lived through it myself, due to illness. I understand the overwhelming affect it has on someones ability to cope or to see any hope or even to find the strenght to even get up in the day time. However there is medical counselling and medication for depression. And you can learn ways to deal with it. The decision to end their life is still their own decision. Being murdered when you dont wish to die is a different matter. The life of someones daughter and sister is also taken. The male partner has no right to do that. Its stepping over a line. Anyway,why do males always choose violence to solve their problems Suicide or murder? Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 9:42:49 PM
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Hey CHERFUL,
I don't think the other blokes here are condoning the mistreatment of women. I think RObert is just trying to say it's not such a one-sided or straightforward issue than which it is portrayed, and I'd agree with him. My first point was more about indoctrination of kids from a feminist 'hate and blame men for everything' viewpoint, rather than a more broader look at the issue. I'd like to say that it's always been my opinion that 'Men lash out when they feel trapped or pushed into a corner'. So whilst I'm not actually condoning anyone using the 'bully' mentality; I will say than men and women can both play a part in the downward spiral of some relationships and the end result can sometimes be one person feeling trapped or pushed into a corner. And two people may be responsible for that, not necessarily one. I hope you understand what I mean and not in any way think I'm condoning violence towards women, because I'm not. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 10:44:01 PM
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In the government report on family homicide I linked to earlier it points out that in the period 2002–03 to 2011–12 there were Males killed by intimate partners and 488 females. 503 of the offenders were male and 151 female. Clearly women are killed by male intimate partners in situations considered to be homicide far more often than the reverse.
I've so far not found anything looking like an independent study into intimate partner killings in Australia not considered as homicide. Some of the material I have seen in the past gives me the impression that if a female kills a partner and claims self defence there is a rush to believe it but I can't currently tell what impact that has on the numbers. So significantly more women die in incidents fitting the term domestic homicide but not so many as to justify the continual portrayal of domestic homicide only in terms of something men do to women any more than we describe alcohol abuse or some specific crimes in relation to only one group which might be overrepresented compared to other groups. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 5:57:31 PM
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Armchair Critic
I do agree that it is a complex problem and that the ridiculing and making men look stupid in Television adds has gone too far. It is damaging to the self-esteem of young boys. And the school system is geared towards the female way of learning, particularly with a shortage of male teachers as role models. I read somewhere that men tend to default to physical action when they get really upset. Probably because in the evolutionary sense they are territorial defenders Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 23 October 2016 11:20:47 PM
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Cherful
But you're in favour of violence remember? Your entire political ideology is based on threatening the entire population with prison and rape to force them to obey your opinions. There is no such thing as a "right" to force people to pretend that men and women are equal or the same when it's factually untrue, to pretend to value them the same when they don't and there's no reason why they should, to pretend that women don't have babies, nor to pay for women's sexual and reproductive choices. Also, it is nonsense that women were "forced" to have children. Rape was at all times illegal and it is dishonest to say that. Posted by Jardine K. Jardine, Thursday, 27 October 2016 11:15:34 PM
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In the meantime, students get dumber and less employable. State schools, funded by tax payers, are not meant to be brainwashing factories for the Left.