//To hell with what I said - I tapped the wrong button//

Mea culpa. We all make technical errors now and then; and I am being a bit overly anal-retentive. Mea maxima culpa.

Now, what was it you were trying to say? That students will do stupid things?

Of course they will, they're only students. They're there to learn, and how do you learn without getting things wrong?

But obviously you're not just here to state the f&^king obvious. Presumably, you think it's some kind of travesty that students make mistakes.

I say cut the poor buggers some slack - how can you expect a 20 year old to have as much knowledge as a 70 year old? The maths doesn't work; the 70 year old has an extra half-century in which to learn (or forget) knowledge.

You've all triggered me.
I'd have replied sooner but after the niggly petty stuff I needed to spend time in my safe space.

You both know that I think generation snowflake are pathetic.
Its all about their feelings.

I accept Toni's point "They're there to learn, and how do you learn without getting things wrong?"
- But we're not talking about making mistakes, we're talking about engineering people to be mentally weak.

I mean seriously - what next?
Will the news reader have to issue the trigger warnings with news broadcasts so that the mentally weak don't have cause to have mental breakdowns or slit their wrists?

The old phrase comes to mind (modified version).
Eat some concrete and harden the hell up.

Surely we are all aware that such pretexts as 'trigger warnings' or talk of 'hate speech' are simply means to shut down discussion ? Yes, it's possible that this next generation of students are cream-puffs (I wonder how many are dropped off and picked up at uni by their mothers in their SUVs), but sooner or later they may have to enter the real world and face up to realities. The people in Syria are having to at the moment.

This is a good summary of 'trigger warnings':

https://bay181.mail.live.com/?tid=cmGlZsB2eQ5hGKSQAiZMGX6A2&fid=flleU-d_avZ0iBAgjS6Q4qfQ2

It's interesting how one thing morphs into another: to raise objections to a point of view has become, not just 'to criticise', but 'to offend' or 'to insult', and from there, 'to use hate speech', and therefore anything that the little darlings disagree with is not even to be rebutted or, in turn, criticised, but simply to be ignored as the evil work of a racist or sexist or whatever. I recall arguing with an Aboriginal student who declared that, by not agreeing with him, I was a racist. I forget my reply.

Everybody should have an equal right to express their opinions, but not every opinion is 'equal' - after all, we simply have to apply the Trump Test on that one. But if you express an opinion, you may need to be able to defend it against somebody with an opposing opinion and a far deeper knowledge of the subject, without going into a tanty. Still, go for it , that's how we learn :)

Joe

Typical of the," dont question what you are taught by us, by allowing triggers that
might cause you to raise questions."

Our universities have been preaching a set ideaology for decades.
This goes against the principal of openminded learning.

Dont ever let the facts get in the way of a dogmatic ideaology.

I call it the hippy, communist,ideaolgy, all dressed up as the humanities and the mickey mouse green schemes.

Hi Cherful, where you been ?

Yes, every Marxist-oriented movement or party or hole-in-the-wall group has its starry-eyed idealists (I like to think that I was one of those), its rulers/dominant group/beloved leader, and its police/judges/executioners. Now that the Berlin Wall is down, and after the Tien An Men massacres, there is nothing much left for the 'Left' but to try tear down any and all 'bourgeois' institutions, and a nihilism which says 'to hell with the world', let's co-operate with whoever else is trying to tear down the world, like ISIS.

But that feeds on a 'what's the point, bugger everything' sense of futility among the next generation. Come to think of it, that ideology has been around for a very long time, long before the War, and was fostered by French existentialism and its idiot Marxist off-shoots. So it is vital to persuade the young that whatever half-arsed anti-parent ideas they already have, is all they need. Couple that with a view of the world that it is just too hard to understand - why, oh why, is it all so complicated - tell me simple solutions to the tangled realities of the real world, and if not then to hell with it all.

Well, the bad news is that yes, it is a complex world, and it won't ever get less complex. Easier to watch cooking shows or The X Factor.

Cheers,

Joe

There is no doubt that it is down to Marxist progressivism.