by the way, ozbob, "x rated porn from canberra" kind of dates you. write "porn" on google and welcome to the 21st century.

x rated porn was the term used by our Prime Minister.

Your post highlights how silly aspects of the plan actually are ..

thanks!

:-)

The porn industry does not just result in black rock spiders but white ones also. People who want to gratify themselves on this stuff continue to argue their rights while again the most innocent in society (children) are sexually abused. Blind freddie can see that people act out what they watch. Visit a prison and you will find without exception the sex offenders are into porn.

Ban this, Ban that. Havent we learned anything in the last 100 years regarding banning things. It doesnt work. Especially when your only banning selected communities. They're going to have to ban petrol, potato's, actually most starchy vegetables, glue, superglue, flyspray, actually most aerosols.

Do you actually think that the ban will have any effect at all, when most towns dont even have police, and those that do, have corrupt police.

This whole Howard solution is pure smokescreening of the real issue, its not about aboriginals, its about poverty and an entrenched subculture based around trying to survive / escape that poverty and its depressive effects and its an epedemic not only in Aboriginal communities but across the entire Australian sub poverty line demographic.

I know this because I grew up as a poor white kid and watched all my sisters, friends and mates self destruct on drugs, sex, crime and suicide. I also spent a large portion of my time in Wilcania, one of the most depressing aparthied white / aboriginal communities I have ever visited.

Howards a smart guy.

Let's get one thing straight here - I understood John Howard said he would do the same thing to the rest of the community if it was necessary. It is just a pity that he will not be able to do it for the states as well as the territory...thank goodness the territory did not attain statehood or nothing would have happened.
I once knew a wonderful, indeed amazing and outstanding indigenous woman (now unfortunately no longer with us) who told me that this was the sort of solution she would support.
To suggest it is paternalistic is nonsense. Too much political correctness has caused too much misery in too many areas. Far better to take away the supposed rights of some adults if it means that children are going to gain theirs.
If self determination puts children at risk then it has to cease.
I imagine I will get blasted for this point of view but I do care deeply about the children.

Make no mistake ,this is a tragic situation all over Australia ,brought about by inexcusable Government neglect of our own most vunerable Indigenous people . Genuine efforts and BILLIONS of well directed dollars ,not political election spin are required .

This may explain why Howard and Brough were so quick in taking away the 60 Million dollars promised to the Aboriginal people of Alice Springs to help alleviate their equally horrendous problems, with them probably having even more access to alcohol and other drugs.

What will he do for the large number of tragic male and female alcoholics - a product of the indifference of our own alcohol fuelled society ?

Because of his historical attitude to Aboriginal People I don't trust his motives - never will after his nasty decision, spurred on by his mates, the National Party and the National Farmers Federation, to "rearange" the laws [to the detriment of Native title Claiments] to the granting of Land Rights in the Mabo and Wik Decisions [1998] by the now stacked High Court.

It has already been said this could well be a back door way to take more land off our Indigenous Brothers and Sisters.

The world will be watching John.