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What a disgrace these politians have become.

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Having had the best part of two months break from parliament post election, how pathetic was it for elected members to take an early mark after their first sitting week back.

Surely as their employers we deserve far better than this.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 3 September 2016 11:21:00 AM
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The pollie funny money habit is getting stronger. Debt rises the same under both parties of Honourable Members. China buys power lines and power brokers. Suicides up. Olympic medals down. Sea levels rise. Holden gone. Tas devils , koalas and coral dead. Trump for Prime Minister.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 3 September 2016 1:01:03 PM
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"how pathetic was it for elected members to take an early mark after their first sitting week back"

Some unmentioned took an earlier mark than that.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 3 September 2016 1:05:42 PM
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rehctub Quote "Surely as their employers we deserve far better than this"

The problem is technically we are the employers but the employees get to dictate and vote for their perks and benefits, indexed for life pensions etc.

Even the way their salary is worked out is a joke because they have control over the people determining it.

Australian Prime Ministers salary is more than the American Presidents.

Politicians don't serve the people they serve themselves.
Posted by Philip S, Saturday, 3 September 2016 4:42:21 PM
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Ministers "servants" of course are not serving the taxed-or-jailed workers. They are working ministers , servants of the Crown / Peter Cosgrove. Our taxes are personal rent on George III's land he got from Jimmie Cook 1770. Charles-and-Camilla will employ the prime
servant minister next and going by Charles' profit policy on his estates of poms , he may send a special royal letter for his Orstrailians to put more in the plate. He is on the Civil List for social security.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 3 September 2016 5:37:39 PM
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If we truly get the politicians we deserve, we must be really awful! The clowns in Canberra have never been worse, in my time. Turnbull, now PM for around 12 months, has done absolutely nothing to alleviate the problems of the country since he and his equally useless mates did the dirty on Abbott. Turnbull and co. are 'too busy' to deal with 18C (straight from Turnbull's mouth): but, what are they busy with? It must be a state secret. The debt is still climbing; everything the Coalition is supposed to stand for is fading away; not a single government politician has said a word about the 3 young students being persecuted by the HRC because they were standing up for their rights; not a word from the government when an HRC Commissioner ASKED for people to complain about Bill Leak's cartoons; no response to a U.S request to help stand up to China in the South China Sea; Turnbull is considering a good old suck-up to leftist Obama at a proposed summit on refugees,all things (if he can find the time of course). The lest is endless. The man and his followers are dead loss - a fraud against us,especially after the 'big man' excuses for doing away with Abbott. And now, the idiots lost two votes in parliament because 3 of the little dears wanted to go home. Shorten pretends he won. Turnbull pretends he has workable majority. Ah, one more: not a word about a policeman copping a rock in the face during an aboriginal riot in Kalgoorlie. We carry on in auto pilot mode.
Posted by ttbn, Saturday, 3 September 2016 5:58:13 PM
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The OC as Governor General knows the Defence Forces Disciplinary Act.
The Disciplinary Officer could award basic punishment of restriction of privileges (ROP) for a few days, loss of leave or a reprimand.
As the Government Whip is ineffective then abandoning the back benches in the face of Labor's attacks brings down military discipline and about time too.
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 3 September 2016 7:24:39 PM
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While we are suffering the weakest and wettest Coalition government ever, lead by a total dud, we should remember that the Liberal party has always seen politics as a game for gentlemen, whereas the Left is out to win at any cost. Unless the Coalition fights fire with fire it will be left well behind in the increasingly left-totalitarian world.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 4 September 2016 1:06:21 PM
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We will always have politicians from either side of politics not meeting the expectations of some...

More "checks and balances" in the system to get them working harder and sooner after an election perhaps?

It's either that or start having machines and computers making executive decisions about government for us. Would we like that?

That last question is very profound indeed...
Posted by Rojama, Sunday, 4 September 2016 1:12:12 PM
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Computer parliament is the way to go. Punch in economic equations, iron ore price, bank fee scales, price of fish and suicide bombs with anti-malware China firewall and adjust up for mateship and new rental construction.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 4 September 2016 1:36:18 PM
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If we had had a computer run government we would still have money in the bank and as it would have no conscience, it would not have fallen for the do-gooders.

We now have what is referred to as a 'liberal wet government' which is as close to labor as they can be without being labor.

Its time for Abbott to make a move on this dud, and either replace him, or should he loose, resign so he doesn't go down with the sinking ship. I only voted for the libs in the hope they would dump Turnbull.

Either they go down this path, or we will be back at the polls in no time flat, which in my view, would see a larger stake taken by the likes of Hanson and Hinch.

What ever happens we deserve far better than the shambles we have now.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 4 September 2016 2:12:43 PM
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If it looks like a bribe it probably is.

A Chinese company gave $3.6 million to Labor while bidding for government work – and it’s totally legal

In 2012-13, Zhongfu donated the money while its subsidiary, Kimberley Agricultural Investments, was bidding to develop the second stage of the Ord Irrigation Scheme.

This was one of Australia’s largest-ever greenfield agricultural projects. State Labor and federal Coalition politicians lambasted the controversial deal at the time as selling off the farm and as a threat to Australia’s national food security.

It has been revealed this week that Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) head Duncan Lewis had in 2014 briefed the major parties about the security risks of taking donations from some Chinese companies. They were told the Chinese government had been seeking to exert influence through donations given by linked companies. It is not known if Zhongfu was one of the companies named.

The Ord Irrigation Scheme is a $510 million joint Western Australian and federal government project to develop the Kimberley region. Under the terms of the deal, Shanghai Zhongfu Group agreed to invest $700 million in developing a 33,000-acre site to grow sugar and related products for export to China.

In return, Shanghai Zhongfu Group received $1 a year for 50-year leases, and a government commitment to provide supporting infrastructure, such as irrigation channels and roads.

https://theconversation.com/a-chinese-company-gave-3-6-million-to-labor-while-bidding-for-government-work-and-its-totally-legal-64810
Posted by Philip S, Sunday, 4 September 2016 5:50:20 PM
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weird . Oz pays $510 mill and won't get that back as taxes when China
covers its $700 mill investment with 50 years profits. Company Tax on 5% profit should do it unless the Chinese have donated to the Tax Office Chop Suey and Sharkfin Soup wildlife charity.
Posted by nicknamenick, Sunday, 4 September 2016 6:30:06 PM
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What's the going rate to buy a Labor cabinet minister these days?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 5 September 2016 1:35:57 PM
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Philip S
Looks like Sam Dastyari will have plenty of time to eat his faved halal snack packs after being caught in 'pay for play'.
I wonder who else he's done deals with...
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 7 September 2016 7:56:52 PM
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I really think that most of politics are criminals. They steal money and people don't know it!
Posted by JScarborough72, Friday, 9 September 2016 7:26:38 AM
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