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Would you move to another planet?

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A potentially closest habitable planet to our solar system has been found. Visit:

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/08/24/health/proxima-b-centauri-rocky-planet-habitable-zone-neighbor-star/

Considering the multiple problems that Earth is facing at present such as the Italian earthquakes which have killed over 240 people so far, ongoing conflicts between humans, groups of people and nations along with the increasing and unfixable problems relating to the environment and climate change, should humans consider the idea of some moving to another planet?

Also if such a proposal was workable, would you consider taking up such a move?
Posted by NathanJ, Thursday, 25 August 2016 7:30:08 PM
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your medication is affecting you seriously Nathan.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 25 August 2016 10:39:08 PM
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Certainly, Nathan, but there is no need to take our human body with us - it probably won't be suitable anyway to the conditions on another planet, nor would it last the journey.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 26 August 2016 12:00:08 AM
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Unconfirmed reports warn of serious earthquakes on b Centauri and possible tsunamis in iceberg regions.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 26 August 2016 7:37:50 AM
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There are at present, as all of us know, technically insurmountable problems to overcome with settling on another planet. The one NathanJ is referring to is approx 4 light years away, that distance in itself is one of the biggest challenges.

Our current space traveling technology is just too primitive to begin attempting this distance. If one believes in Einstein's theories, then traveling faster than the speed of light will have consequences with regards to our perception of time, but I digress, that is a discussion for another day..

It is inevitable that we humans will have to settle in other parts of the universe, the last 5,000 or more years of human history and development or progress, support our natural curiosity to see what is "on the other side of the fence" so to speak. I don't' think robots or other forms of advanced A.I will satisfy, even though they are more probable for a first trip to test the area chosen for travel.

IF the logistics of this journey were overcome and that means the time to travel there, AND the chosen planet was capable of supporting life, I would choose such a trip but who's going to pay? in any case I"m sick to death of the constant problems we humans have created on this earth, and the virtually endless discussions about them.

If we could travel such distances in the hostile environment of space that the time to get there would be like something today such as traveling from Sydney to London or thereabouts, yes it would indeed be something I would seriously consider.

Going by the rate of technological innovation over say the last 50 years, I would say we will be there by the end of this century, and about time too!
Posted by Rojama, Friday, 26 August 2016 1:37:13 PM
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I also wanted to add to my last sentence in the above post, that we could be there by 2050 IF and only IF we all put our intellectual and material resources together to focus on this ever important goal.

Call me a dreamer, Idealist, nutcase or escapist... I don't care! but sometimes I honestly thing all this bickering and rivalry between us here on earth is keeping us here on earth...until we destroy ourselves!
Posted by Rojama, Friday, 26 August 2016 1:41:38 PM
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There are attractive arguments for paying freight to move Islam to another world. But the only sensible policy would be to bring Mars in towards the Sun on the opposite side of our orbit. It simply requires speeding it up by solar powered rail-guns ejecting metal containers for Martian rock into space , as in Newton's equal-opposite force . The guns are angled to nudge Mars sun-wards as they say.
The frozen water is released, clover and peas are planted for soil nitrogen and away you go.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 26 August 2016 2:13:10 PM
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No I don't think so, earth is a good place to live except if there are wars and other natural disasters as an example.
Posted by misanthrope, Friday, 26 August 2016 2:46:04 PM
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misanthrope
travel broadens the mind , have you even looked at what's on offer out there?
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 26 August 2016 3:21:45 PM
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Remember The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the ship of all the useless sent to establish a new planet.

Great idea. We normal folk, who like our ever so mildly polluted planet just as it is, with all the comforts of home we have built, can send our useless off to this new planet.

The ratbag greens, who hate development should love being the new cavemen on a pristine new planet. Rather than chattering in their inner city high-rise, with well paid taxpayer funded jobs, they could actually live their dream, & provide for themselves.

I vote Paul as captain of our expeditionary first ship. With any luck, like the Kingston Trio's Charley on the MTA, he & his mates will never return. Now there's a dream worth dreaming
Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 26 August 2016 8:21:41 PM
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Hassy, you are well known for being "OFF THE PLANET", just read your forum comments. There you are, out there, orbiting somewhere right of Pluto! The latest foible of yours... demanding Malcolm's Mob run a wire out to your little rocky mud heap, 40 trillion light years from the reality of Earth. All at taxpayer expense, so you and your fellow Dalak's can ditch the drums and smoke signals, and have broadband, just like the intelligent people. I say no way!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 27 August 2016 6:31:30 AM
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Greens Leader Richard Di Natale and past leader Bob Brown would be demanding cargo space for a shipping container of Eastern Bloc Greens.

Another shipping container to provide sufficient space for her ego, for Sarah 'Two Dads' Hanson-Young, who 'doesn't know' why she was removed from Greens immigration portfolio.

SHY, "I don't agree with it, I don't accept it". What a classic!
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 27 August 2016 7:04:30 PM
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The Greens leader [Di Natale]..denied that her [Sarah Hanson-Young's] well-publicised struggle to explain superannuation policy during the campaign made her a bad choice for the finance portfolio, arguing "it's hardly a hanging offence for people to make a mistake"..

The reshuffle would provide "a good opportunity for [Senator Hanson-Young] to demonstrate that she is somebody who can engage in the economic debate in a really sophisticated way," Senator Di Natale told ABC News 24"

Reminiscent of Rudd747 putting Penny Wong (his 'Dr No', LOL) into the finance ministry. Can they perform where there is no set script and they have to do a bit of work? Heavens no.

Who says that Greens leader Richard Di Natale doesn't have a sense of humour.
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 27 August 2016 7:16:53 PM
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I suppose the 200yr+ travel time could be a barrier.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 27 August 2016 7:53:24 PM
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Runner,

In principle benefits of the ability to move elsewhere (like another planet), that some could take on, would need to be done with a brave and open mindset.

At present, there are too many humans living on Earth, with a land ownership belief and mentality, a strong level of hatred in their minds that is passing from generation to generation and a feeling by some for a strong need of "border protection" although a border (like a state border), is really only an invisible line that has been developed by human beings.

A new planet that humans could live on, could break down a range of barriers, based on history, lifestyle, race and culture, seeing a new "revitalised" planet, which could be akin to "Heaven on Earth".

It's really something to consider in that context.
Posted by NathanJ, Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:39:33 PM
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One winter morning at the end of the 19th century, 220 Australian socialists sailed out of Sydney harbour on the Royal Tar, bound for the deep green heart of South America.

They were going to Paraguay, to start a ‘New Australia’. It was to be a utopia of equality, fairness for workers, and communal living – and from there, they would change the world. One of the most ambitious schemes in Australian history, it failed miserably; but descendents of those pioneers still live there, and preserve fragments of their Australian past. I climb to the third floor of the Senate building and gaze out over a marshy slum to the Río Paraguay, trying to imagine what those Australian pilgrims thought as they steamed slowly up the river all those years ago.

Their story starts with a financial crash in Argentina which triggered an economic depression in Australia. In February 1891, Queensland shearers, faced with pay cuts to their already meagre wages, walked off the job by the thousands._ argentina independent
Posted by nicknamenick, Saturday, 27 August 2016 10:54:21 PM
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Beach. you could pull one of those slick property deals of yours. Sell some unsuspecting time travelers an unwanted asteroid or two at an inflated price!
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 29 August 2016 7:18:29 AM
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NathanJ
.." feeling by some for a strong need of "border protection" although a border (like a state border), is really only an invisible line that has been developed by human beings."
Probably it will need a hologram virtual border fence between Earth and b Centauri. Laser Tasers and IED stealth bombs will deter gate crashers.
Posted by nicknamenick, Monday, 29 August 2016 1:19:59 PM
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Too Rojama
I wonder what technological advancements that you are referring to that makes you think we can make it off this rather pleasant rock we are on at the moment. There is no evidence that a planet including the moon can support life outside a cocoon. Would it not make more sense to invest the time and energy making this planet more habitable?

Perhaps, if you want to look over the fence how about getting a better understanding of how this plant functions, before looking to the stares. I am one of those who is unconvinced that we actually made it through the van Allen belt to the moon. The technology of today still is not capable of getting to the moon and back safely, so how could what was around 40 odd years ago have made it there and back again.

If you want to live on an inhospitable planet, you don’t have to wait, just move to the Mohave desert, it is a lot easier to get to.
Chris
Posted by LEFTY ONE, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 6:03:18 PM
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