I'm starting this thread for the free discussion of the US elections.
Feel free to bring up any topic on the subject.

What would a Trump or Clinton world look like?

I've learned a lot of things about the US elections recently, and it seems to be a rather dirty game in respect to electoral fraud.
I've heard reports of all these things occurring.

Rigging the system for a favoured candidate from within a political party
Skew the polls by deliberately polling areas favorable to a particular candidate, as you can't successfully get away with rigging an election unless you also firstly rig the polls in the proposed winners favour.
This also helps the proposed candidate as people who are sitting on the fence will vote for what they consider to be 'the winning team'.
Have media organisations on your side to spread disinformation.
Sabotage the other candidates speeches and rally's including using false flags and cause rivalries between them.
Find dirt on the other candidates and where none exists, lie; it doesn't need to be true all that matters is what the public 'perceives'.
Change absentee votes to garner extra votes in a particular candidates favour.
Control how the people vote with Voter ID laws.
Voting multiple times, going to numerous polling booths.
Control how they vote by not having the correct ballots available.
Limit the amount of polling booths in unfavorable places and create long queues to dissuade people from voting.
Change the count by rigging the counting machines to favour a particular candidate.
Control the people who count and declare the vote.
Exit polls are important because they are the real guage of whether an elected candidate was actually the peoples choice.
Be wary of removal of these polls, or of non-permittance of observers who can verify the election results were free from tampering.

I've read that the real poll data is actually Trump 67% Clinton 19% Undecided 13%
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/08/15/the-clinton-campaign-is-in-real-trouble/

These statistics are somewhat confirmed by the amount of people attending Trump and Clinton's speeches and rallies.

The elections only run for 2.5 years and should go the full 4 years to smooth out other boring TV news.

Armchair, have you seen what else is on that site? It's a very unreliable source!

The only reason Clinton looks so good, is because The Donald looks so bad! To put it into the Aussie context, think of Arthur Dunger going up against Dame Edna Everage to see he gets to put their finger on the nuk button first. If your not afraid now, just wait till next year.
Is it too late for Ronald McDonald to throw his hat into the ring? I hope not!

President Paul Hogan should make a late run except for his origins. But Trump as Dunger ? How about Ivan Milat getting his hands on Ita Buttrose?

I read Obama has vetoed the use of the pledge of allegiance and Clinton supports him. This will bring the Democrats into disrepute even by many of their followers.

one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
hmm.. black deaths in custody, black deaths before custody,

Is this thread about the US elections?

yessir
Black or African American 37,685,848 12.2%

Hey Aiden,
I haven't browsed much of Dave Hodges website, I've listened to his radio show a few times and read a few of his articles.
I wouldn't doubt that some people might find some of the topics on his website questionable, though the few articles I've read have been pretty good. Interesting anyway.
If I could've found a more reliable source for that poll I'd have linked it instead, I added the link because I thought it better to add a link to accompany those statistics than not add any link at all as you guys would've rightly requested evidence for those statistics.

You're still rightfully welcome to question the reliability of that poll, as I don't know for certain that it's accurate any more than any of the other polls.

Hey Paul1405,
A lot of the sentiment regarding the US election seems to be the 'protest vote'.
I support Trump, but I think my motivation is just as much if not more against Hillary.
So although we support different candidates and obviously have different points of view, we can agree on something.
If I had to choose between Hillary and Ronald McDonald, the clown would surely get my vote.

Hey Josephus,
I didn't know Obama had vetoed use of the pledge.
I think the Democrats have suffered a lot of damage of late especially from the Wikileaks release which showed the nomination was fixed in Hillarys favour; I also expect more releases from wikileaks regarding Hillary in the coming weeks and months.
I expect a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters feel that their candidate was unfairly robbed of the nomination and that there isn't a lot of democracy in the Democratic Party at present.

Hey Josephus,
Just started listening to the what really happened radio show for Monday and the first thing Michael Rivero said was that the 'veto of the pledge of allegiance' is a hoax story from a fake ABC News website.

He said that "Somebody is going around setting up totally bogus fake corporate media websites and using them to try and plant stories on the independent media to make us look silly."

http://www.republicbroadcastingarchives.org/what-really-happened-with-michael-rivero-august-22-2016-hour-1/

His advice is to check the URL's.

I THINK THAT clinton be next us president
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A long time ago the US was best even though Britannia Rules the Waves, in the English Channel. In those days when the sky was shining brass the wise men chose mottos for the glories to come for the US Eagle:
'deo favente', favor of god . 'virtus sola invicta', virtue alone invincible. ' in vindiciam libertatis', in defence of liberty.

Today, 'annuit coeptis', providence in favor of the American cause'. novus ordo seclorum, 'new order of ages' , are the Roman quotes on the US Great Seal or large walrus. 1776 about a quarter of a century..

erm..getting old..
1776 quarter of a millenium

Trumps speech today was excellent.
http://youtu.be/FEZ8veB1rww

The mainstream media are spreading a lot of disinformation.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/different-messages-to-different-audiences-donald-trump-on-immigration-in-mexico-and-arizona-20160901-gr68l1.html#comments

A TRUMP WIN will bring more peace to the world.
Russia,China, Britain ,Philipines have all been insulted by Obama.
He is so in the pockets of the Qatar and Saudi Governments that he and Clinton can only see the CASH. They are a disgrace to the Free world.

I have a number of progressive friends who routinely post on social media bagging Trump but appear to be in denial regarding the problems with Clinton. I don't like either, undecided which is the least ethical.

A faint hope that the reality of Trump as president may be better than the campaigning Trump and an absolute certainty that the reality of Clinton as President would be far worse than the campaigning Clinton.

Not sure where that puts the end balance but "none of the above" has a ring to it. As on left leaning commentator put it, at least Trump would be scrutinised by the left.

The Trump camp is apparently using this video of Obama talking about Clinton in 2008 but I don't think that reason to dismiss it. It appears to be genuine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIdmFU5IIG8

R0bert