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Refugee innovation in the EU

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Dear Bazz,

So you propose that humans be treated worse than animals?

Animals are not subjected to Australian law - so why should they?

Because they have no passports? Neither do animals.
And suppose they did keep their passports, would you then allow them to be treated at least as well as animals?

It is preposterous to expect someone who is neither Australian nor has any business with the state of Australia to obey Australian law. Nobody expects this even of animals.

Sure, if they were asking for protection or any other favours from Australia, then you may well demand that they obey your laws in return, but what if they never do? humans are also animals, so what if they simply physically arrive in their capacity as animals? surely they should not be treated worse than non-human animals who simply arrive!

In the least they should be treated according to RSPCA guidelines. If they create trouble or danger, then you may euthanase them with the least possible pain, but not otherwise. Also, Australians should be able to adopt them as pets so long as they take the usual responsibilities and precautions to ensure they cannot run out and bite.

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Dear OnTheBeach,

What about pirates? they are evil, harmful and dangerous so you may do what it takes to eliminate them in self-defence. But how is this related?

If a vessel endangers your safety or is out to harm you, then you do what it takes to avert the danger. What flag they raise (if any) or whether they operate safely or otherwise, should be none of your business.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 14 July 2016 11:07:52 PM
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This all sounds very good in theory, but what sort of relationship would we have with our close neighbours/trading partners Indonesia if we said "All the region's refugees are your problem, we don't want to share in the burden."?

Not very neighbourly is it? Does everyone want Australia to live in isolation in our own part of the World? Indonesia and perhaps Malaysia may very well look elsewhere for trade, and could make trouble for the many thousands of Aussie tourists who flock to those countries for work or holidays, or to live there, every year.

We can't live in isolation and expect our relatively peaceful lives to continue as is...
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 15 July 2016 12:19:54 AM
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I think that taking refugees in our country is a nonsense. They have their own land!
Posted by FrankMiller1976, Friday, 15 July 2016 7:37:41 AM
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The modern day refugee is now wanting to come here for a better life, not to make a better life for themselves, but rather to feed from what we have.

The sad part of all this is that our governments have been too stupid to realize whats going on.

The Brexit and Pauline Hanson votes were no accident. People have had enough.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 15 July 2016 9:04:54 AM
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One difference:

In Germany Angela Merkel says "Wir schaffen das (WE shalL cope) with the integration of refugees".
In Switzerland they tell the refugees: "YOU shall have to cope with your integration."
Posted by George, Friday, 15 July 2016 9:48:54 AM
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Susie is again up to promoting her "One World Order", no borders as Muslims see to dominate the World. If we believe in individual cultures and rights we must oppose such a World view. Not all people are neighbourly to accept into our homes. Britex saw the problem developing of refugees tenting in Sherwood Forest and cutting down trees for firewood; such an invasion in Australia would put us back into the 1940's of people camping under bridges and invading homes for food.
Posted by Josephus, Friday, 15 July 2016 11:54:34 AM
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