Hi Poirot,

Non sequitur. With respect, you haven't answered the question: Do you think that Islamism and Shari'a are far to the Right of the Conservatives in Britain ?

Some nasty person would add, 'Yes, and do you still support it ?' But I wouldn't.

No hurry :)

Joe

Loudmouth,

You appear to be under the false impression that if you toss out one of your well-crafted leading questions - that I am somehow bound to respond to it.

Lol!...

Hi Poirot,

So that's a YES-YES, then ?

No, of course, you're not bound to respond. After all, your non-responses say plenty enough.

So the pseudo-Left here supports the extreme Right there, in keeping with Bruckner's observations ? Who said history was dead ? Fascinating. Horrible, despicable, but fascinating.

Cheers,

Joe

Slight tangent to the original point but I'm of the view that if we have laws where exceptions can be made of the basis of a belief in some deity then the law was not that important in the first place.

Not always practical to implement that but I've been wondering if membership of groups whose belief structure apparently requires them to discriminate could not then cause the removal similar protections from adherents. If you belong to some group that gets a religious exemption from discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, sexuality, political beliefs etc then members of that group also loose any legal protections from similar discrimination.

The trickiest part would seem to be the wriggling done around what defines membership/adherence to some group.

R0bert

Dear R0bert,

Discrimination is a great faculty and an indicator of our intelligence - one must be completely dumb to not discriminate.

We should all be able to choose where, when, how and whom we associate with, we need not have to explain why or belong to a group in order to exercise our freedom and nobody should be "protected" against our free choice to refuse associating with others.

Yuyutsu,

You have committed the fallacy of equivocation again (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation).

The word “discriminate” has two senses:

1. recognize a distinction; differentiate.
2. make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, sex, or age.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/discriminate

R0bert was clearly referring to 2, whereas you address 1 in your first sentence as a lead-in for what appears to be a justification for behaviour captured by 2. Hence the equivocation.