Aidan

many public servants are being paid large salaries to push the gw propaganda, the feminist dogma, social engineering. Who do you think is paying for this garbage. Certainly not you. Our debt continues to grow.

WTF Hasbeen.
A leftie plot??
So all those anarchists that protested in Seattle, Genoa and Melbourne were rightards like you I suppose.
The WTO and the IMF are lefties? Get your hand off it.

Butch
The minimum wage is $17.29 per hour not $20. Which is atm is about $12.62 $US. Hardly exorbitant.
Hardly likely to bankrupt the likes of colesworths is it?
Im surprised you would support them rechtub given their predatory war on independents like yourself.

According to http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/recruitment/the_lifestyle/general_duties/working_conditions
Police constables get a starting salary of $65000. With 6 weeks holidays and a 38 hour week that works out at $37 per hour. Before allowances for weekends, nights, extra duties etc.
Sounds fair to me.

As does $20 per hour for a trolley collector. They have a hard physical job and also dangerous. I wonder how many trolley collectors have been run over in some dimly lit supermarket carpark. I wonder how many of them got workers comp.

"There are two ways to make a good paycheque, work smart (high skills) or work long hours, but to expect someone to have a decent lifestyle, in low skilled jobs, working just 38 hours is ridiculous."

1.How can people work smart when the lying liars party is doing everything they can to make education less accessible and more expensive.
2.How many hours a week do you want the plebs to work flesher? 40, 50, 60, 100?
How telling it is that you think hard working men and women shouldnt have a "decent lifestyle".
Its one thing slagging off pensioners and the unemployed as undeserving now its anyone who works full time in a low skilled job that needs to have money ripped from their hands by scum like woolworths and coles..

Rehctub,

Don't you ever stop whinging?

On a visit to the UK I saw that Brussels ordered the UK not
to build a road where it had been planned.
My comment to my son's father-in-law was that Britain is a colony
of Brussels. They have the same relationship as London's Colonial
Office had to the British colonies around the world where they had
their local assemblies.
He did not accept that comparison, well not immediately anyway.

One of my dreams a while back was that Australia should saw off the
rest of the world and only import absolutely essential items that we
could not manufacture, eg large jet aircraft.
It would give a whole different set of problems of course but it would
solve our competition problem with the cheap labour countries.

Bazz,

I'm intrigued. Which road was that?

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runner,

Firstly, none of those things is actually socialist!

Secondly, what "social engineering" are you referring to?
What "feminist dogma"? And if it's that men and women are equal, isn't that worth promoting when there are still people around who think they aren't?
What "gw propaganda"? Do you mean the science?

And at this stage of the economic cycle, of course our debt continues to grow! Trying to cut our debt now weakens the private sector, increases unemployment and doesn't ultimately result in less debt – indeed it ultimately results in more debt, as it makes it take longer for the private sector to return to full strength so we will need to run deficits for longer.

But whether we take the sensible course of deliberately running bigger deficits to spur a private sector recovery, or we opt for the stupid alternative of embarking on the futile task of trying to cut our way back to surplus, future generations have zero obligation to pay the debt off. Whether we have the highest debt in the world or none at all, whether we run deficits or surpluses should depend on the economic circumstances at the time, not the bogus need to reach a certain debt level. We're totally immune from Greece's problems because we're financially sovereign; we have unlimited credit. And because we have a floating currency and no foreign currency debt, we're also immune from the problems of Zimbabwe and Venezuela.

The problem starts at the top, we have a prime minister who earns more than the American president, over charging lawyers, solicitors, dentists and doctors to name a few the whole top end are paid or charging too much.

We have revenue raising Governments and local councils issuing penalty notices and fines way out of proportion to other countries.

The poor sods at the bottom of the salary chain need these wages to pay for the charges etc from the higher ups.

$20 to take up the hem of a pair of pants took the person about 6 minutes crazy.

Shop rentals and home rentals way too high all tradesmen services overpriced by comparison to the time it takes them.

You can fly to Thailand or the Philippines and have a holiday and have dental work done way cheaper than just having the work done in Australia.

It will not change once someone gets a set wage they do not want to go backwards, the only way to fix it is a broad based reduction that will not happen.

We have not started on the Business problem, in the past someone owned a company they made a reasonable profit to make up for there time etc now too many companies are owned by stockholders therefore they need to make criminal amounts of profit to satisfy the thousands of part owners.