socialist dogma leads to future generations paying for their indulgences.

runner, unless that's a mindless insult, can you be a bit more specific? What socialist dogma are you referring to? How much are future generations paying? And did/will those future generations get the benefit of what they are paying for?

And why do you single out socialists? Aren't you aware that capitalists also make dogmatic decisions resulting in false economies that future generations pay for?

This is what globalisation was really all about.
Reducing the wests wages and conditions to compete with the slaves in the third world.
If you like $10 an hour wages so much flesher why dont you po to china. Im sure they will welcome another exploiter of workers.

Have you only just caught on to that mikk?

Any smart person has known for years that it is a lefty elite plot to get the western peasant class, [worker in your language] off the comfortable life we have built for ourselves. Those elites like union bosses, bureaucrats & academics believe all the spoils belong to them, not the workers.

That is one of the reasons the less wealthy areas of England voted overwhelmingly to kick the elitist EU in the nose & leave the mess.

Your leaders don't believe people like you should be able to own houses, or drive cars, unless it is as chauffeurs for them. Great you support them.

Mikk, I have said this often, and of cause nobody can give an answer, if we pay our trolley collectors $20 per hour, how much should we be paying our police?

Where does it end?

Furthermore, if we are going to pay $20 per hour, then get rid of all the 457 trolley pushers and get our dole recipients on the job, as they can collect trolleys, and get paid the $20 per hour for 25 or so hours per week.

To set the minimum wage at such a high rate is crippling us and we are so stupid to fall for it.

There are two ways to make a good paycheque, work smart (high skills) or work long hours, but to expect someone to have a decent lifestyle, in low skilled jobs, working just 38 hours is ridiculous.

Besides, governments are responsible for welfare, not bussinesses.

Hasbeen, no smart person knows that or will ever know that, for the simple reason that it's not true, and indeed utterly ridiculous.

For a start, it's not the "lefty elite" who want to "western peasant class off the comfortable life we have built for ourselves". Everyone on the Left wants to improve the quality of life of working people, though there's disagreement on how it should be done (some think higher pay is the key; others including myself would prefer the government to provide better services). But the Right believe the spoils belong to the financiers, not the workers. And considering the decline of the wage share of the economy, and the shift in the burden of taxation onto consumers, it looks like the Right are firmly in control.

"That is one of the reasons the less wealthy areas of England voted overwhelmingly to kick the elitist EU in the nose & leave the mess."
That's certainly what many believe, but in reality most of the problems blamed on the EU in Britain are actually the result of British government decisions. And the correlation with wealth is weak; the correlation with education levels is much stronger. See http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis

"Your leaders don't believe people like you should be able to own houses, or drive cars, unless it is as chauffeurs for them. Great you support them."
Which leaders are you referring to? I know Joe Hockey thought poor people didn't drive cars, but hasn't he quit?