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The Priorities of the First World Feminists of Oz

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and of course the regressives were silent when one of their own spoke if Pauline Hanson being hung from Sydney Harbour. Another one of the abc heroes with complete double standards.

btw I would of though Bill Shorten dehumanising women by watching them strip would have the feminist in an outrage. No chance as long as their 'cause 'is advanced. Feminism usually just means selfishness and fake outrage.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 23 June 2016 12:59:27 PM
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Poirot:

“That absolves childish men using their positions in the media to undertake blokey conversations on air - musing about drowning journos, referring to them as excrement, etc...”

No they should take full responsibility for their behaviour but not all aggressive behaviour is a hanging offence. Exaggerating and dramatising what happened is cowardice because women who make a big issue out of it do so to try and obtain leverage in their campaign against men’s violence. If they have a genuine issue in regard to men’s violence then they should argue their cause in the forum about men’s violence. They are afraid that their arguments may not be logical so they try and attack men for behaviour which has nothing to do with violence.

“You appear to be suggesting that these women should dish out the same immature sledging to these fellas...just like a playground slanging match.”

What is wrong with that? Wouldn’t it be just self-defence? Why would a woman not make use of the weapons available to her to defend herself? If it works for men why wouldn’t it work for women?

“puerile wingnuts”

Is that aggressive? Is it like what Newman said to Riley.

cont.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 23 June 2016 1:06:41 PM
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cont.

“Righto - I'm sure you can provide an example of professional women in the media using their positions to do the same to male sporting personalities.”

I am confused as to what your problem is. Is it about people abusing the media or is it about men’s aggression towards women?

No one should abuse the media regardless of their gender but plenty of people do. There are structures put in place to censure this when it happens and those censures should be applied irrespective of gender. Anything else is discrimination. If there are no women abusing the media that is fine but what difference would it make if they were not? What would your point be other than to say that men abuse the media more than women?

If your problem is about men’s aggression towards women then surely it is irrelevant whether they are in the media or not. Is it OK for men to be aggressive to women outside the media then? If you do not like the fact that men are aggressive toward women then you would not like it in any situation so whatever argument you are trying to make about men’s aggression towards women would make their presence in the media irrelevant
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 23 June 2016 1:08:30 PM
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Violence? What violence might that be? There isn't any, just inane jokes from the amateur comedians of sports commentary. Honestly, who watches that cr@p anyhow? It is imagined by the media to provide 'colour' and extra time to put in advertisements. No serious appreciator of sports wants it, seeing it as useless and irritating and a complete waste of time.

The Emily's Listers have got a taste of the millions in grants liberated from the taxpayer by the previous DV push. Now they want to extend the definition of DV to prop up the stats they didn't have in the first place, and secondly, to add to the millions already flowing from the taxpayer.

Anyhow, when will the educated, middle class white elite who are feminists and are siphoning off the guvvy money for their own benefit, careers and lifestyle, going to admit that DV is concentrated in those 'Struggle Streets' they don't acknowledge and indigenous, which they also want to cover up?

Perhaps that senior sports writer for The Age newspaper might take a chauffeured limo ride to inspect some indigenous women and children. Didn't an indigenous academic recently describe DV in indigenous communities as a ‘national crisis’? These words were used, "Indigenous women are 34 times more likely to be hospitalised as a result of domestic violence than their non-Indigenous counterparts".

It is a fair wager that DV is those cases wasn't an inane jibe from one senior political talking head to another.

Unfair is those millions of taxpayer dollars being diverted into the wallets of educated middle class white women calling themselves 'feminists' and NEVER reaching the abused women and children in indigenous communities out there.

For all of the many millions spent, where are the practical outcomes on the ground?

BTW, by comparison, football codes like the AFL can easily show actual results for their efforts and expenditure on indigenous boys and girls.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 23 June 2016 4:00:24 PM
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otb,

You do bang on...

"Perhaps that senior sports writer for The Age newspaper might take a chauffeured limo ride to inspect some indigenous women and children..."

Oh yes, I recall it was you, otb, who for once defended a female when she was taken to task for calling an indigenous player an "ape".

Remember the poor teenage who had been trained by the folks who surrounded her to pepper indigenous players with that sort of rhetoric.

Now you are trying to make out you care about the AFL putting time into indigenous kids - when those kids saw what their colour attracts from certain sections of Oz society.

And you defended the girl, her mentors, and the mentality that delivers it.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 23 June 2016 5:05:18 PM
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"Victoria Police has warned its officers Eddie McGuire's disparaging comments about journalist Caroline Wilson ' are not to be taken lightly', pointing to the organisation's own issues with sexism in an internal memo.

Deputy Commissioner Wendy Steendam's note, provided to AAP, highlights the parallels between the incident and the issues raised in a December 2015 Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commission report.

The report found a high prevalence and tolerance of sexual harassment and sexist practices targeting women within Victoria Police.

'Given our own challenges identified through the VEOHRC review, some within our organisation won't see a problem with the comments,' Ms Steendam wrote.

'So let's be very clear.

'Here we have an example of where humiliation and a lack of respect are played out in public. Where a group of men laughing about drowning a female colleague, along with other name calling is somehow framed as a 'joke'.'"

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national/2016/06/23/police--don-t-take-mcguire-s-comments-lightly.html#sthash.aJHQnfii.ON9zKqLV.dpuf
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 23 June 2016 5:11:08 PM
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