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The Smallbone report

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Paul,

Certainly agents applied the colour bar as colour was a sure indicator of culture, particularly of a culture that has lots of brothers and cousins; letting the property to a member of that culture meant unsureness as to who would actually be living in the rented premises.

I have some beaut tales of "white" tenants in Housing Commission houses, like the family who never opened their front blinds, the local inspector paid them a call and found that the front rooms were a little mushroom farm (now-a-days the crop would be different).
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 11 April 2016 10:14:46 PM
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Paul1405,

What you have to accept is that government, State and federal, have tried but cannot develop, manage or fund welfare housing.

Here is why,
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/trashers-and-abusers-keep-cheap-public-housing-despite-growing-dope-and-causing-destruction/story-fni0cx12-1226842198211

So government has been pushing its responsibilities onto the private sector.

However at the same time government constantly interferes in the market and handicaps the private sector with tenant friendly regulations (as in friendly to poor tenants NOT good tenants who end up having to pay for the cheats!) that government would not accept for itself.

What the left does is wage a class war on the hapless developers and providers of rental housing. It is idiotic and shortsighted to attack the very investors and creative talent that your own leftist governments, who couldn't make a go of a hot pie stand outside a building site, are relying on to make up for their own abysmal lack of planning, poor management and spendthrift ways.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 6:33:19 AM
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Is Mise, nothing like a bit of stereotyping to reinforce racists bigotry. But we negate our black racism with a little anecdotal story about a white fella and his mushroom farm in the front bedroom of his public housing.
Then there is Beach, who can always be replied upon to supply a juice bit of negativity from the Murdoch gutter press. Then goes on to tell us how tough the likes of billionaire property developer Harry Triguboff is doing it, and we should all feel sorry for the hapless property developers. Here in NSW I would say developers are getting a very good run from the Baird Liberal Government.

So fellas what it to be, Beach is against public housing, and Is Mise don't want them in private housing. How many bridges are there for disadvantaged people to live under.
Sorry to disappointing you both, despite your tails of woe, many thousands of people have lived in public housing for years with no problems what so ever. Get that into your 'Daily Telegraph'!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 7:48:39 AM
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Paul1405, "Beach is against public housing"

Bollocks! Precisely where do you get that from my posts? Provide the quotes.

Total fabrications, 'creative'(sic) storytelling and forum baiting are your tactics and always because you cannot dispel with fact and logic.

For decades, Labor governments' policies of a 'Big Australia' and endless diversity regardless of social costs have put intolerable stresses on infrastructure and housing.

It is impossible for federal and State governments to tip enough money into public housing to meet the demand the feds themselves are responsible for creating and have been sternly and repeatedly criticised for by their own Labor State Premiers.

To top it off, no-one in government is willing to address the spoiling and trashing of homes, private and investor owned, by tenants who damn well know better, but are also know that they can get away with it.

Where government itself cannot afford the costs and management overheads of feral tenants and such tenants are in increasing number due to feral tenant friendly regulations and Tribunals, why should the private sector be required to bear the risks and losses? -All the while the human headlines of the 'Watermelon' Greens 'Protest' Party and other serial protesters with their own secondary gain first in mind are playing political games with'negative gearing' and so on.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 1:26:29 PM
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That should be,

"To top it off, no-one in government is willing to address the spoiling and trashing of homes, PUBLIC and investor owned, by tenants who damn well know better, but also know that they can get away with it"
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 3:09:21 PM
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Hi Paul,

Just thinking about public housing in Aboriginal 'communities', it' not so much that people trash houses but that people travelling around lob onto auntie or grannie, use her house, over-use the facilities, leave once the toilets block up, and let her clean up the mess, since, after all, it's not their house. And since some government department has obligated itself not only to provide a house but implicitly to keep it maintained, it's not auntie or granny's job either.

In my cups a month or so ago, I was arguing with a friend that any new housing provided for single elderly people in the NT should be fully serviced, kitchen, toilet, laundry, etc., but of only one bedroom, so as not to overload the tenant; visitors could use tents which would be available from Council offices for a fee - people can pitch them near auntie or grannie but have to use the common toilets. Hmm, yeah, right. So another bright idea died in the arse.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 5:54:11 PM
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