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Does The Mainstream Media Support Illegal Abortion?

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Suseonline,
I read an interesting story a few days back that made me question Trump, and I did have a moment of doubt.
It was from one of his campaign staff that had recently left his campaign.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/03/28/trumps-top-strategist-just-quit-wrote-brutal-open-letter-trump-voters/

I read another article which shed more light on this.
http://www.snopes.com/stephanie-cegielski-letter-trump/

I've also heard it mentioned a few times that this woman was a Ted Cruz mole working inside the Trump camp.

- In any case it did lead me to have doubts about Trump.

I still like the guy and would be willing to go along with him (if I was a US citizen) simply because I cant stand the idea of what might happen in the world if one of the other bought-and-paid-for candidates gets in.
It's like I know there's going to be trouble if one of the others get in, where as with Trump, I'm still at least a little bit optimistic that things wont be as bad.
I do think though that there will be forces trying to play dirty with his Presidency (assuming he gets in) just in the same way they are playing dirty with his campaign now.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 2 April 2016 11:46:57 AM
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Shadow Minister,
I honestly don't know but are there any stats of women or abortionists being prosecuted for breaking the rules, whatever they are.
It would be interesting to know.

I don't want to punish any woman for having to make a difficult decision to end the life of an unborn child, I just don't want to make it easy for them to use abortion as a form of birth control on late term pregnancies.

And if laws or penalties aren't in place to prevent the behavior then one can only assume the practice would continue.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 2 April 2016 11:56:07 AM
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Armchair Critic I think the main point to remember is that back when it was illegal to have or perform an abortion, they still happened frequently....except they were done unsafely and caused many maternal deaths as well.

Doctors, midwives and women who had abortions were prosecuted back in the good old days, but still the abortions kept happening.

Maybe we could look at the situation in a different way today to see if we get any better results. With these days of good DNA testing results we could find out who the fathers were of these unwanted pregnancies and prosecute them for having had unprotected sex?
Posted by Suseonline, Sunday, 3 April 2016 3:24:11 AM
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AC

With abortion being legal and accessible, I can't find any cases of illegal abortions.

As I mentioned previously 95% of terminations occur in the first 12 weeks, and small handful after that. The terminations that occur after 20 weeks would appear to be from those that wanted to have the baby but have found compelling medical reasons not to.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 3 April 2016 4:32:45 AM
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Hey Suseonline,
I don't see why not.
I don't think it's a taxpayers duty to raise all these kids if there are fathers who can be found and who should be contributing but aren't.

One thing I will say about your mention of 'fathers of unwanted pregnancies' is that blokes maybe do get the rough end of the stick in one area, but this just par for the course, so don't think I'm necessarily complaining about it.

A man does not have any say whether or not a woman wants to keep the baby, and it does take two to tango.
If its the womans unwanted pregnancy expect an abortion whether the man wants it or not.
If its a mans unwanted pregnancy, he may still have to expect child support, again whether he likes it or not.
But blokes can protect themselves against the latter by wearing condoms and avoiding that situation if they choose to.

Shadow Minister,
I don't know whether there isn't any stats because it doesn't happen or because no one is prosecuted for it.
But I think the 95% statistic of women who do the right thing is pleasing, and we should be glad that the vast majority of them are already acting responsibly. Maybe a good deal of them shouldn't be getting pregnant in the first place, but men are just as much to blame for this as well.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 3 April 2016 6:00:39 AM
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Society's and Media's obsession with casual sex is to blame for the surgical abortion industry in Western society. With 500,000 + abortions in Australia in the last 40 years we have destroyed a whole nation for selfish pleasure. Very few would have been deformed and in such cases would have naturally aborted.

"In 2005 an estimated 83,210 induced abortions were performed, with women aged 0-19 years representing 13 855 (16.5%) of this total number [3]. The abortion rate in Australia is about 19.7 per 1000 women aged 15-44,4 which is relatively high when compared with other countries where abortion is easier to access"

The media and women in Parliament support abortion as a pregnancy control method. However it damages the woman's self image and engenders guilt. We in Australia have available several very effective methods of avoiding a pregnancy. The use of taxpayer funding for the procedure should not be available for those over 18 years
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 3 April 2016 6:05:13 PM
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