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Why is Feminism a dirty word for some?

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Feminism is on a collision cause with radical Islam.
In a religion that forces women to be placed behind men because men may have sexual thoughts about the women they are praying with indicates that women will never be free.
Women are seen only as a sexual object can be seen as Muslim youths raped women though out Europe on New Years Eve and in Melbourne.
Western youth have always been taught to have respect for females.
Women can wear a bikini on a beach in western countries but in Cronulla Muslim men and women took it upon themselves to call these women every foul name possible and kick sand in their eyes and spit on them.
Our politically correct community has allowed radical male dominated Islam to grow in our prisons and general community.
The death throws of feminism have arrived.
Posted by BROCK, Monday, 21 March 2016 12:18:16 PM
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Re Brock

This is why the contradiction between many vocal feminists and their neutrality towards and even defence of Islam is so extraordinary. The elephant in their lounge room is called "hypocrisy".
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 21 March 2016 12:36:55 PM
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Hi Brock,

"Feminism is on a collision cause with radical Islam."

Yes, you would think so, wouldn't you ?

Maybe women need to be carefully taught again what feminism is and what equality is, those sorts of elementary matters, and have it all explained to them, all over again. Our task is never complete.

But unfortunately, many have accidentally undergone courses in anti-Marxism, a.k.a. post-modernism, at universities and in elementary TAFEE courses. The jump from workers' Revolution to poofters' and pedophiles' preoccupations instead - a Gramscian turn that even Gramsci would be appalled by - waving a pretty flag is certainly a lot easier than throwing oneself on the barricades. As long as one also stays a long way from Syria.

And this idiocy, that all cultures are equal, i.e. all cultural practices - seems to have totally disarmed the partially-educated. What - the culture of Brahms and Mahler and Schubert and Mozart is 'equal' to that of the Nazis, since they were both German ? The culture of Dr Martin Luther King and some southern hick is 'equal' by virtue of both being 'American' ? Marx would be disgusted at the laziness of thought involved in that infantile equation.

Is it timidity ? is it brainlessness ? In the past, women have been accused of having both at once. I hope those attitudes are inaccurate in 2016 - perhaps a faint hope. Still, what can you do ? You can lead a horse to water .....

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 21 March 2016 5:14:32 PM
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Loudmouth asks of feminists who go to bat for Islam "Is it timidity ? is it brainlessness ?"

I don't think it's either. I think it's multiculturalist ideology, which ascribes a value to diversity as something to be sought and aspired to rather than merely being routinely accepted where relevant.
This ideology gives an uncritical leave pass to evils (such as oppression or bigotry or misogyny) if their origin seems exotic, and fosters openness to closedness.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Monday, 21 March 2016 6:26:48 PM
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Hi Jules,

No, I wasn't saying that feminists are going into bat for Islam, or Islamism, but that they were perhaps too timid - or brainless - to come to the support of their sisters oppressed by Islam, since after all, they've made it.

Clearly, Muslim women will have to fight their battles pretty much on their own, they won't get much support from the latte set or the cultural relativists or the Gramscians. We won't hear much from 'feminists' about FGM, or multiple marriages, or honor killings, or equal rights for Muslim women even in Australia (after all, we must above all respect people's culture no matter how oppressive it may be for women - I think that's the argument).

How did feminism become such a upper/middle-class, elitist preserve ? Perhaps as William Morris wrote: "I pondered all these things, and how men [and women] fight and lose the battle, and the thing that they fought for comes about in spite of their defeat, and when it comes turns out not to be what they meant, and other men [and women] have to fight for what they meant under another name."

Is that how it's going to work ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Monday, 21 March 2016 10:15:47 PM
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Dear Joe (Loudmoth),

Women will be truly equal to men the day
an incompetent woman is given a high
level job.
(Francoise Giroud).
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:24:57 AM
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