Suseonline, "..some women 'who just lay there' do so out of extreme boredom...?

Fembot indulging herself in femsplaining and men blaming.

Fortunately young women communicate and participate. Yay, makes for great sex! They have no need for feminist matrons telling them what and constantly giving them the bum's steer.

They are so unlike those 'lay back and its all men's fault' Boomer princesses.

But then again Suseonline, since you are forever going on about 'bum sex', anal sex, for women and you say from your previous Roman Catholic upbringing that rear entry (and resultant dribbling bottom syndrome) was de rigeur for RC women, doubtless the frozen 'starfish' is explained by the discomfort they suffered and their reasonable fear of harm and STIs.

Any wonder so many feminists are ex-Catholics. They are likely suffering from PTSD or Stockholm Syndrome. They need one-on-one counselling.

If feminists were at all interested in real, not fudged research, they may have learned that earlier. That it wasn't 'men' at all, just some of them and definitely their mothers for making them go to that RC church. Women WERE the strength, the backbone, of the RC Church and probably still are.

Feminism is as term focused on half the human race. Very noble. Is there a term for focus on all of it?

The movers and shakers of feminism - those who have the ears of editors and politicians alike - are white, educated, leftist and middle class. You can bracket an age group and occupational groupings (eg., government funded) too if required.

While the rhetoric is broader to have broader appeal, when it comes down to political demands, they represent the interests of their own already well-entitled demographic, exclusively.

They're NOT humanists NOR egalitarians, but quite the reverse where their behaviour is concerned.

Emperor Julian "Feminism is as term focused on half the human race. Very noble. Is there a term for focus on all of it?"

A term has already been out there for some time of course...MANkind.
Obviously this term was brought to us by only half of the population too.
Not much difference there then is there ?

No wonder the word feminism strikes terror into the hearts of...MANkind.
Scary stuff.

"Mankind" is a term I never use. It's skewed language, like "feminism".

It's interesting how, in discussing feminism, which really is about women being accommodated into the capitalist consumer paradigm, that some men here choose the tactic of reducing females to sexual baggage.

He's a charming selection:

"Women want the right to dress and act like prostitutes, whilst at the same time say they shouldn't be seen as sex objects."

"Go burn your bras ladies and let your boobs get saggy till they touch your knees.. "

"Just don't try to insult my intelligence and tell me that women don't get the same wages as a man in any award rate job they do or that they have less corporate or political opportunities when they are all out spreading their legs to get a easy meal ticket and a baby bonus"

"And for those women who complain of mens attention maybe they should be grateful for their blessings or maybe they would rather be reminded how ugly they look or how big their bums are getting."

"Fortunately young women communicate and participate. Yay, makes for great sex! They have no need for feminist matrons telling them what and constantly giving them the bum's steer."

"But then again Suseonline, since you are forever going on about 'bum sex', anal sex, for women and you say from your previous Roman Catholic upbringing that rear entry (and resultant dribbling bottom syndrome) was de rigeur for RC women, doubtless the frozen 'starfish' is explained by the discomfort they suffered and their reasonable fear of harm and STIs."

It's a tried and true tactic - which I like to call the "Caveman Strategy"

Seems quite fitting here : )

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Suse,

MANkind - touché