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Which side are you on?

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“Interesting that you use the Nazis' excuse of needing 'lebensraum' in relation to Chinese claims on South China Sea reefs. Can you see just a slight contradiction there, Jules ?”

If as suggested above I had likened the Chinese claims to the Nazi claims on the East the contradiction would indeed be more than slight, even though the Deppity Dawgs write as though those parallels exist.

However the parallel (read it again) was between (1) the Deppity Dawg chorus group's assertions of supposed Chinese “intentions” and (2) the Krauts' drivel about supposed British, French and Czarist Russian “intentions” and then Polish, British, Czech, French, Polish and Soviet “intentions” as a pretext to launch war on the world, twice.

Indeed it's the Deppity Dawgs who are drawing a parallel based on the Nazis - writing as though China is following their Lebensraum logic.

Requires close attention to get it.

"Which Side Are You On"?

Nobody with better than two neurones up and running would want Australia to side with the geostrategic ambitions of either bunch of imperialists. The side to be on is that of civilisation, which depends on behaviour following international rules which apply to all nations. The alternative is chaos, strutting brass-hat rule and a fortune for the arms manufacturers
Posted by EmperorJulian, Thursday, 10 March 2016 5:46:03 PM
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Hi Jules,

Well, yes but I did also write, "We'll see."

Yes, on maps which display what they call their seven-dotted line (I think. Seven ? Nine ? Eleven ?)

Yes, on 1947 Kuomintang maps, which the CPC was quite happy to inherit in 1949. Imperialism springs eternal.

Irrelevant ? Frankly, if the Yanks ate all their first-born raw, it would still be irrelevant.

As I understand it, the Yanks (and the Australians) are prepared to uphold international law, which sets out that it is illegal to claim any reefs or shoals which are substantially under-water at high tide. As well, local fishermen who have been working n those waters for centuries, perhaps millennia, have the right, recognised internationally, to work in those areas, even to camp on those reefs in their traditional stilt-houses over the water.

'Lebensraum' ? Well yes: " ... writing as though China is following their Lebensraum logic." Is any other co0untry in the region making the same illegal claims ?

And yes, " .... The side to be on is that of civilisation, which depends on behaviour following international rules which apply to all nations" and which sometimes require that we stand up to bullies.

You got that right :)

Joe.
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 10 March 2016 6:00:11 PM
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A new report from the National Genealogical Society,proves that billionaire presidential candidate Donald Trump is a not-so-distant relative of Adolph Hitler.
Trump is related to Hitler on his paternal grandmother's side. She lived in Bavaria and married Adolph Hitler's grand uncle from Austria-Hungary, Johann Schicklgruber.

Upon marrying Trump's grandmother Katherina, Johann Schicklgruber made a name for himself in local politics. However, he was soon banished from his hometown by local authorities for inciting violence against Hungarians.

After this incident, Johann Schicklgruber moved with his wife to the German town of Kallstadt and changed his surname to Trump in an effort to escape his shameful past. The other Schicklgrubers would later change their surname to Hitler, also in an effort to escape their shameful past.

Johann and Katherina had a son they named Frederick, who would later move to the United States. His son Fred made a fortune in real estate and later fathered Donald.

“I'm proud of my family tree,” said Donald Trump, learning of the connection today. “Hitler was a great leader who made Germany great again. I've read all of his books several times.”

“Look, just like in America, Germany was having trouble with a particular religious group,” continued Trump. “Adolph Hitler didn't give in to the PC culture or the liberals. He spoke his mind and got things done. Hitler's fabulous, just terrific. I can't think of somebody more great to be related to.”

Since news of this broke, Trump's supporters have posted thousands of comments all over the Internet, defending and praising Trump for being related to Hitler.
Posted by Paul1405, Thursday, 10 March 2016 7:48:37 PM
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Were not an independent country in this realistic scenario.
We are just a pawn on the global chessboard.

China owns all our farms and needs them for food and also of of its other vested interests in our country including our mineral wealth.

Do you think they are just going to let that go in a war situation?, and what if the US is DELIBERATELY trying to start a war to blame its forthcoming economic collapse on?

What then?

Then we have a date with destiny... and the clock is ticking.

Even if I'm wrong, I'm still right, and I'll tell you why.
Lets say by some miracle WW3 happens and we come out of it unscathed and un-nuked..

Seems irrational already..

But where do you think everyone else on the planet is coming when the nukes start flying in the northern hemisphere and its no longer inhabitable?

Australia will be the homeless shelter for the planet.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 10 March 2016 7:50:54 PM
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Paul,

So what, I'm a distant relative of William the Conqueror and Henry the II of England and consequently Prince Harry et al but that doesn't mean that I'm more than plain old me, even though I have a minor Scots title.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 10 March 2016 8:04:52 PM
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Hi Paul,

And just suppose someone did some research and found that you are a distant relation of Marie Antoinette ? Or the pirate Henry Morgan ? So f...... what ?

I certainly don't want to defend Trump in any way but for God's sake, try to avoid the stupidest, dirtiest, lowest, cheapest, ways to attack someone. Attack him on his record and on the vile things that he has said, not some idiotic sidetrack like this.

Otherwise one would think, is that all you've got ? You're an idiot, plain and simple.

Joe.
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 10 March 2016 10:46:09 PM
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