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Safe Schools Program.

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In several N.S.W schools schools toilets are no longer "girls" and "boys" as each are open to how the person prefers to identifies themselves. This is not going to stop assaults or rape. Many parents have since withdrawn their daughters from such schools as unsafe.
Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 3 March 2016 10:17:37 AM
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Josephus: In several N.S.W schools schools toilets are no longer "girls" and "boys" as each are open to how the person prefers to identifies themselves. This is not going to stop assaults or rape. Many parents have since withdrawn their daughters from such schools as unsafe.

Uni-sex toilets have been around forever. I have never heard of any problems. There is a separate room for the Urinal. The Dorm at James Cook were Uni-sex in the 70's.

The Army as had Unisex toilets since the 80's. In fact the original ones at Shoalwater Bay from 67 were open pedestal & used by both sexes. I haven't been there since so I don't know if they've been up graded. I remember sitting on the Loo & having conversations & swopping pages of the local Newspaper with the female soldier on the next pedestal. No problems.

The open air showers had a Hessian partition between the two showering stations to separate the sexes & waist high Hessian around the sides. That was about as good as clear cellophane. No one cared or made a big deal out of it. Just glad to get clean after 2 weeks in the bush.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 3 March 2016 10:49:33 AM
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I think its all a load of crap.
Its human nature even as kids to make friends with those who are LIKE us, and single out or make fun of those who are DIFFERENT.
Whilst we can try to teach kids to be tolerant of others, we must accept that this mechanism above is a part of competitive human nature.
It's part of our DNA.
I don't see how teaching young kids about gay sex will help anymore than simply teaching them to try to be respectful towards others.
I don't see how its legally or morally right for people other than parents to 'officially' teach kids about this stuff whilst they are under the legal age of performing it.

Its a parents jobs to raise their kids and talk about sex, not some other paid person with an agenda.

Its a schools job to educate a child with knowledge for employment, not indoctrination for politically correct social issues.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 3 March 2016 10:56:48 AM
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I think there should be 'unisex' toilets provided at all schools so that anyone can use them. It beats me why this subject is so upsetting to some. At the end of the day, if all kids used closed cubicles to do their business in, no one would know any difference.

Personally, I doubt that Karl Marx would have given a damn which toilets were used by whom, and I remain amused why some would-be communist people go on about a Russian from last century who has no bearing on anything happening now, especially in Australia.
Drag yourselves into this century and leave boringly inappropriate Russian history in the past I say...
Posted by Suseonline, Thursday, 3 March 2016 10:58:53 AM
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Poirot, "Yodelling 'It's a Marxist plot' from the rooftops"

You must be directing that comment at Roz Ward, the manager and co-founder of Safe Schools Coalition Victoria,

"Safe Schools Coalition Victoria co-founder Roz Ward has also conceded the Safe Schools Coalition program is part of a broader Marxist strategy to change society.
..
The architect behind a contentious sexual diversity program set to become mandatory across all Victorian schools is an outspoken hard-left warrior who has publicly denounced Immigration Minister Peter Dutton as a sexist prick"
(from the SBS site today)

A post from The Australian today and spot on,

"The objective of the Safe Schools Coalition is to stop bullying in schools. An admirable aim if that were its sole aim. But we now learn that the architect of this program has admitted that it is part of a broader Marxist strategy to change society (“Schools activist raises red flag”, 1/3). That may not have come as a surprise to the [leftist] progressive minority who advocate anything that tends to the Left, but it would have come out of left field for many teachers and parents who have supported the program so far. The discovery that the underlying aim of the program is extremely Left will no doubt have a negative effect on that support.

Creating a society that does not acknowledge gender difference in any way, and that is equal in all aspects of human interaction, is a Marxist dream that has been tried and failed. Yes, children should be taught to have respect for each other but that can be achieved through co-operation between teachers and parents and a sensible approach to sex education in schools and at home"
(Elizabeth Todd, NSW)
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 3 March 2016 11:17:35 AM
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It will be interesting to read the results that will
be published of the Review of the Safe Schools Program.
The Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull has called for
one. Which should satisfy the critics.

Penny Wong stated - "I didn't think people would
have such an issue with their children being taught
acceptance and tolerance."

The Safe Schools Program is not compulsory.
Only schools that want the program access it.

Also it should be made clear that -
it does not link or recommend any pornographic
web content, sex shops, adult online comments or sex
adult contents websites in any of its material.

Hopefully the Review will clarify things after
March 11th - and this controversy will appear for what
it really is - a storm in a tea-cup perpetrated by
people who are prejudiced against anything that is
outside the heterosexual scenario.

Bigotry is bigotry whether it's dressed up in the
language of faith, marxism, or anti "difference"
or not.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 3 March 2016 12:01:00 PM
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