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Perspective on bullying

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School bullying, or pre-school bullying in its early stages, is simply the beginning of what society accepts later on as normal, be it work place bullying, domestic violence, violence in sport, animal cruelty, gun violence, state sanctioned violence, right up to nationalised violence on a world scale...war!
The answer is human society needs to reject all forms of violence, both physical and mental, and embrace pacifism.

Don't worry phanto, the judge will simply read that article you linked and bring down his verdict. Isn't that how it works?

Jay, they could have made a move of that. Have you ever watched 'Rompa Stompa' I have.

Mr Gerrit H Schorel-Hlavka <<I have conducted since 1982 a special lifeline service dealing with people contemplating suicide.>> What did you do, show them that 4 inch slash in your arm? Interesting.

Joe, "I was little for my age, although devastatingly handsome" I can't let that pass without comment. Compared to what? The rear end of a rhinestones! LOL.

Foxy has summed up correctly once more;

<<schools are supposed to be responsible
for providing students with a safe and supportive
environment (and staff that are appropriately trained
to protect pupils from bullying and harassment.
This school failed in its job.>>

And any self respecting judge will take that on board when making his or her's decision, and not simply phanto's link.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 5:33:31 AM
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To all the self assured “toughen up” proponents....there are those among us who are not psychologically capable of toughening up. They are not wired that way and the inability to understand that is either bravado or sociopathic behaviour on behalf of the detractor.

Don Mclean penned a song about Vincent Van Gogh, perhaps the most prominent of suicide victims. Don’s most perceptive line of that song is “perhaps this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you.

The want to self harm is a sickness, not a choice.
Posted by sonofgloin, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 6:25:54 AM
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people forget we are part of the animal kingdom and like it or not, bullying is here to stay. I don't condone it, but I accept facts as they are.

One major shift in modern society is the gay movement coming out of the closet as this has brought much of the verbal bullying upon themselves. Again, im not defending the bullying, it's fact.

As for schools not doing enough, you can blame the do-gooders because they have removed the right for just about ANYONE to discipline kids, including the police to a large extent.

Many knew this would happen, even warned of the consequences, but the Do-gooders surged ahead, so we are what we are and the sooner you accept that for every action, there is a reaction, the sooner you will be able to move on. The reaction in this case is the unruly kids with no real disciplinarians to speak of and the situation worsens when mum/Dad/Mum don't give a toss.

You wanted it, you got it!

As for Poirot anticipated comments, negative gearing is an essential tool in the fight against affordable housing and if you don't believe me, just wait to see who is right if and when they have the balls to change it, especially if labour gets their way.

Pre Ng an investor only purchased a rental if the returns were about 10%, whereas now they are more like 2-4% and NG takes up the slack.

I say go there by all means, BUT ONLY if you are prepared for the fallout. And believe me, it will be huge.

But as for bullying, if we really want to address this we have to stop focusing on the victim and act on the offenders, but, as I've said, many of these people go about their bullying ways pretty much unchecked due to modern day societies approach to just about everything. Bullies are pretty much untouchable, and they know it.

A massive winding back of the clock is whats needed and this would take years/decades. We are what we sow.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 6:47:25 AM
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Bugsy:

So you were bullying but you would like to change the subject to make it about my sensitivity? If you were not bullying then why do you feel the need to change the subject and to throw in a little sarcasm while you are at it – just another little show of your aggression.

Poirot:

Foxy said the school had failed its duty. I didn’t agree because at the moment we do not know all the facts – we only have the article. Is it totally impossible that there are other facts which have still to come to light of which I presented a possible example?

What is wrong with any of this? It is called argument. You do not know for certain that there are no other sides to the picture and yet you have already agreed with Foxy. Why bother having courts or trials at all if all we need to do is to read the paper?

I don’t think he is bringing school bullying to attention – he is just bringing himself to attention.
Posted by phanto, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 12:21:57 PM
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One day the light bulb we go on that it is not a very bright idea to put 30 kids of the same age in a classroom and expect them to get along. It is also very obvious that since not being able to given any effective discipline to kids has been outlawed, bullying has increased in massive proportions. Many high schools punish bullies by sending them home to play xbox all day. Its called suspension. While bullying has always taken place the regressives again have created a massive problem and then blame everyone else. They encourage kids to experiment with sex at a young age and are stupid enough to ask why we have problems. They have been dumb enough to promote porn and argue that what you see does not affect behaviour. Their own behaviour defies this logic. They refuse to cane but ask why 11 year olds spit in parents face. The regressives again by and large and created zoos instead of schools and wipe hands of any responsibility. Usually the dogma and Christophic natures require turning their hatred and bigotry on anyone standing for any decency. They are in fact the bullies.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 12:41:20 PM
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Is name calling bullying, phanto?

If yes, then what is being called a liar and dramatiser and manipulator? You've never even met the kid. You don't know how the story originated and yet in almost the same breath you say, 'we don't know all the facts', so we should reserve judgement. On the school, not the kid, according to you.

So if my name calling is bullying, who was my victim and what were the consequences of that? Your sensitivity to my name calling is definitely an issue in this, if you feel so weak and threatened by me, please let me know and I will stop.

Alternatively, your name calling had a definite target, it was quite specific and if he ever read your little diatribe, I would expect some definitely negative consequences on his psyche.

Who is the bigger bully?
Posted by Bugsy, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 12:48:55 PM
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