Mhaze and Is Mise, by anyone's estimation gun-related violence is much worse in the US than here. I wasn't discussing any other country, but if you want to look up and provide statistics for other countries, knock yourself out. Mhaze, death by suicide with a gun is just as easy as death with a gun against others. Too easy, and just as tragic.

Wikipedia : "Gun violence in the United States results in thousands of deaths and injuries annually.[1] According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, in 2013, firearms were used in 84,258 nonfatal injuries (26.65 per 100,000 U.S. citizens) [2] and 11,208 deaths by homicide (3.5 per 100,000),[3] 21,175 by suicide with a firearm,[4] 505 deaths due to accidental discharge of a firearm,[4] and 281 deaths due to firearms-use with "undetermined intent"[5] for a total of 33,169 deaths related to firearms (excluding firearm deaths due to legal intervention). 1.3% of all deaths in the country were related to firearms.[1][6]"

A dreadful indictment against guns if ever I saw one.
Trump is a laughing stock for most intelligent Americans and will never win an election.

The US constitution is the contract between the government and the citizens and sets out the rules in which government can rule over the people.
It's not just about hunting, self-defense, protecting stock or other owned property.
The Second Amendment is the ultimate check on government and provides the people with the means to resist a tyrannical government.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

I've just been reading up on Donald Trump and he is impressive, probably make a good President.

//If the USA isn't at the top of the crime list then why is its prison population so high?//

//Because they lock criminals in prison.//

If they're black (a joke). The U.S. don't exclusively imprison black people; they just imprison them at a much higher rate than they do white people.

Cue our local KKK representative to tell us all how much more evil blacks are than whites...

//If guns cause crime then why isn't the USA at the top of the crime list?//

Probably because it has such a large population.

In Europe, the country with the highest crime rate is the Vatican - not because high-ranking Catholic clergy are crooks, but because it has a very low official population and an enormous influx of tourists every day. Lots of tourists = lots of pick-pocketing and bag-snatching = lots of crime = ridiculously high crime rate in a state populated by monsignors, bishops, cardinals et. al.

//I've just been reading up on Donald Trump and he is impressive, probably make a good President.//

Don't believe everything you read.

I've been listening to him, and he sounds decidedly dodgy to me. When a charismatic orator with a ridiculous haircut, an over-blown sense of his own self-importance, clear megalomaniac/narcissistic tendencies but truck-loads of popular support gets up on stage, I can't help but have flashbacks to the Nuremberg rallies.

It's as if he doesn't realise that the Constitution of the country to whose flag he swears allegiance guarantees freedom of belief, expression etc. Halfwit.

The enemy of your enemy is not always your friend, Is Mise. Sometimes he is just clown in a silly wig.