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Mike Baird's vision for Sydney: A monster holiday resort for Chinese

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Mr Opinion,

Why do you think more Chinese people would make Australia somewhere to get away from?

Why do you think being Chinese would prevent people regarding Australia as somewhere to get away from?
Posted by Aidan, Thursday, 24 December 2015 4:28:29 PM
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Aiden,

The question is, why do you want more Asian investment and migrants in overpopulated and infrastructure-stretched capitals like Sydney?

The ABS has noted that the extent to which migrants settled in urban areas differs by their country of birth. To take some examples, migrants born in nations like China (97%), Vietnam (97%) and India (93%) are highly urbanised.

The ABS says that by contrast, "migrants from New Zealand (78%), the United Kingdom (74%), Germany (72%) and the Netherlands (64%) tended to be less concentrated in major urban areas". "They were still more likely, however, to live in a major urban area than people born in Australia".

Yet for years federal politicians have been peddling the myth that migrants are to fill the so-called vacant areas of Australia.

The host population is being squeezed out of cities while being over-taxed to provide the necessary infrastructure, Medicare and welfare, and as a consequence, are not being able to have the children they (young Aussie couples) planned to have and worked for.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 24 December 2015 5:01:08 PM
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Sorry, that should have been Aidan.

However if you are implying discrimination and it seems you are (against Mr Opinion), in fact any discrimination is against young Aussie couples and against the elderly and low income who are progressively being uprooted to make way for more hugely expensive, walled-off high security apartments, whole blocks and coming 'burbs of them, for cashed up Asians.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 24 December 2015 5:12:33 PM
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"Elsewhere, mhaze has criticised my assessment, stating that he has ABS statistics to show that only about 3 in 100 people on the average are Chinese in Sydney."

Mr O,

Assessment? No assessment. These are mere assertions. Based on precisely nothing.

I don't have ABS statistics, the nation has them. They are a national resource. I showed you how to access them, but, since they tell a truth you'd prefer wasn't so, you chose to ignore them.

Your assertions are based, pure and simple, on paranoid sinophobia - the same impulses that caused the moral panic over the yellow peril all the way back to the 1850s.

" There's a popular saying amongst the Chinese in Australia: 'Aren't Australians dumb?'"

Well, if they've met you, how could they come to any other conclusion?

Mr O - 100% opinion, 0% fact. This is a person who claims to have 3 or 4 university degrees yet rejects irrefutable evidence because it does suit his prejudices. I don't know if that self-deception is funny or sad. Probably both.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 25 December 2015 9:33:07 AM
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onthebeach,

The cities are successful precisely because they have so many people! It makes them very attractive places for businesses to locate.

The stretched infrastructure is mainly due to governments having an irrational fear of debt. Knowing the population will keep rising should give them the confidence they need to invest in infrastructure for the future. That includes high speed rail to make country areas more desirable.

I also favour a gradual shifting of the tax burden off goods and services and onto unimproved land value.

Discrimination seems like too strong a word for Mr Opinion's attitude. 'Tis more an apathetic casual racism.
Posted by Aidan, Friday, 25 December 2015 11:15:43 AM
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