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NSW Greens at it again

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Thanks Beach, I have enjoyed our little discussion on this one. Unfortunately for you, I won, you lost, but that's life.
So see you sometime, somewhere, on another thread, be it about guns for the kiddies or locking up the pensioners, you pick the topic and I'm sure we'll have a verbal spat over it.

Love you big time. Cheers and keep well.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 28 November 2015 5:52:28 AM
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Paul1405,

Your English teacher must have been driven to distraction by your naughty games and poor comprehension.

Here, try reading this again,

<Here is the Huffington Post Australia with the story and a photo of Greens Shoebridge [the 'Human Headline'] in front of a Greens poster advertising and endorsing the subject site, SniffOff.

Quote, "Shoebridge, with his Sniff Off campaign, is doing his best to thwart them -- and is enlisting the public to help."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2015/11/23/shoebridge-facebook-drug-dog_n_8626386.html

Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 26 November 2015 7:40:34 PM>
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 28 November 2015 10:48:48 AM
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Beach, just when I thought we had said our tearful goodbyes on this subject, your back again for round two. I must say your nothing if not a game little rooster!

Now, I thought we had agreed that "evidence" from unreliable sources, aka the Huff and Puff blog, would not be accepted full stop. i checked both the Washington Post and the Times of London and they had nothing to say on the subject, obviously not news worthy to such reputable publications.

So once more I will bid you arrivederci, pardon my French, and good night from me and a good night from him. or as the Italians would say au revoir!
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 28 November 2015 3:15:04 PM
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Paul,

Was this another false flag event?

http://davidshoebridge.org.au/2015/05/28/drug-detection-dog-repeal-bill/

"Drug Detection Dog Repeal Bill

May 28, 2015 in blog, In the Media, justice, Media, Police
20150528_104918

Today Greens member for Newtown Jenny Leong will give notice of a bill to end the use of drug detection dogs without a warrant on public transport, at festivals, bars and Kings Cross....."
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 28 November 2015 3:45:04 PM
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Where are you Paul?

"Greens MP and Justice Spokesperson David Shoebridge said:

"When a police drug dog indicates somebody possesses drugs, the fact is they are getting it wrong between two thirds and three quarters of the time.

"Despite drug dogs being wrong most of the time, thousands of people on public transport, at bars and festivals are subjected to humiliating public searches each year.

"Even when police do find drugs, it is usually a small amount for personal consumption. Only 2% of searches result in a supply conviction.

"The drug dog regime does not target high-level drug dealers or suppliers. It targets young people, the poor and Aboriginal communities," Mr Shoebridge said.".

"Drug sniffer dogs do not work. In fact they are wrong 64-72% of the time. When they do find drugs, it is normally a small amount for personal use - only 2% of searches result in a supply conviction.

The police use of drug dogs disproportionately affects the poor, Aboriginal and queer communities. Young people just trying to have a good time at festivals and bars are subject to police harassment including strip searches.

Police might try to ruin our good times, but we won't go down without a fight. We are holding our own party to protest the drug dog regime.

Sniff Off is the NSW Greens against the use of drug dogs without a warrant. Like us on Facebook or go to our website.

There's limited capacity so order your tickets here beforehand so you don't miss out!"

Both quotes are from the NSW Greens web site.
http://nsw.greens.org.au/news/nsw/drug-detection-dog-repeal-bill-launch-feat-internationally-renowned-musicians
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 29 November 2015 9:34:03 PM
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Is Mise, I have a low tolerance for drug use.

In your conservative black and white world, drugs are bad, people who take drugs are bad, sniffer dogs are good, coppers are good. Coppers with dogs arrest bad drug users, A very simple and ordered scenario which suits your comfortable middle class existence. We are not going to change that.

Is there anything you disagree with in your own post? I'ts all very factual. I personally have been subjected to the sniff dog test many times at both Newtown and Redfern train stations, I frequently use both stations, the coppers with their dogs are there all the time. They detain mostly young people, and subject therm to a frisk, usually turning up nothing, and if they do its invariably the kids own weed that he smokes.

Its my understanding the coppers target both Newtown and Redfern, yet are rarely or never seen at say Strathfield or Chatswood train stations, along with Bondi Junction station, equally as big stations populated by middle class school kids, morning and evening. Why? Do some of them have drugs on em', hummm! Headline; 'Judges Son Caught Selling Drugs At Bondi Station' bad news, we don't want to see such bad news do we.

The big question for you is how much are the sniffer dogs costing society, both financially and socially and for what result. I suggest the sniffers would be better employed sniffing around containers at nearby Port Botany, and not sniffing up the asses of school kids and the disadvantaged at Newtown and Redfern train stations.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 30 November 2015 5:22:20 AM
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